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post #1 of 45 Old 06-05-2012, 06:55 PM Thread Starter
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My first crash

Wiped out on the Cherohala Skyway. Came over a hill around a bend, misjudged the next bend and could not slow in time. Tires hit gravel and I ditched when I saw the trees coming for me.

100% my fault. I was riding too hard, and I got careless.

Friends picked me up, checked me for broken parts and we rode home.

Not sure the full extent of the damage yet (mud and grass everywhere), but so far looks like dented tank, broken mirror, shredded sliders and stator.

Aside from bruises and pride, I'm fine. Gear literally saved my skin. I am thankful I went out fully armored.

I'm not even upset at this. It could have been worse in so many ways.

Lessons learned: Never ride without armor and chill out when you have been riding hard for a while.

I heard a few riders collided nearby and had to be flown out... Hope they are ok.

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Glad to hear you're alright! It seems like full gear has been saving the day lately. Parts come and go pretty frequently and deals are pretty easy to seize between the classifieds here and eBay.

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Dang dude! Glad you are OK!

+1 on the gear - good job on staying ATGATT.

There is a tank for sale on here presently, might want to look into that depending on damage to your own.

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+1 on the gear! Glad you came out ok man. The bike can be fixed.

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damn.... just glad you walked away from it! That's always the important port.

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There are only two riders.....and you've made a note of that.


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Thanks all!

Props go to my girlfriend who insists I be armored even when it means $$$, Shoei bucket, Scorpion jacket, Astar gloves and BMW pants that were worth every penny.

The only thing I am pissed about is that no one took a picture. I was lying on my back spread eagle, with my bike wedged in the tree right behind my head. Beautiful shot.

Soreness starting now. Beer will fix that.

So if you see a 9 in the area with a broken mirror and grass in the engine, say hi.

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Was just down there a few weeks ago and glad to see most who are hitting the dragon and other twisties like the Cherohala Skyway were wearing gear. It makes a big difference between a bad day and a bunch of bad days.

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The power of ATGATT!! Sorry about the crash but glad youre unscathed

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Damn man! Sorry to hear about the spill! But you have a great attitude and glad you were ATGATT! The important thing is you walked away!

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Sorry to hear about your getoff, glad you're OK!

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Love the Skyway. Has a few spots that can bite real bad. Sounds like you found one and lived to tell about it.

Beer fixes a lot of things.

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Heal up quick man. Sorry about the crash, but you will have the bike fixed up in no time.

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Glad you are ok.

Please take the following comments positively. You have been given a gift. Make sure you fully take advantage of the learning experience to save you the next time when you might not be so lucky.

Investigations into many "went wide" accidents reveal that in most cases the bike did have the capability to negotiate the turn within its handling and traction limits. Why don't they make the corner then? Target fixation. You go where your eyes fixate and humans instinctively fixate on the danger.

We need to train ourselves to fight this instinct, focusing instead on where we want to go with full committment, in this case around the bend. In almost all cases the bike will follow along because they are actually capable of far more than we think.

One other instinct in these situations that has to be fought is the instinct of getting on the brakes, especially the front brake, or backing off the throttle. This pulls the bike upright when what we really want is more lean. It also puts a lot more weight on the front end where there's already lot's during cornering. Shifting more weight to the front reduces the available traction at the front tire when we really need it. In these situations we need to maintain the right traction balance between the front and rear tires, which means at least staying steady on the throttle, but preferably slightly getting on it a bit in order to take some of the load off the front. Counter intuitive, but it's our best chance of survival.

You can read up about this stuff on the net. Keith Code explains these survival reactions in Twist of the Wrist 2, which I recommend to anyone, even if they never get on a track.

Good luck to you and again, I'm glad you made it out ok.

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Thanks Ottawa.

I agree that I made mistakes and did not do everything I could have to save it.

I have that book now, and I intend to sign up for some track classes this summer.

I might head back to the spot today to see what I could have done.

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post #16 of 45 Old 06-06-2012, 09:42 AM
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Your here commenting and in fairly good spirits. That's what counts.
So many of us have bit the bag but lived to tell.


I think your perspective on the self medicating for pain purposes is healthy. There is no need to rush things if you think about it and there is no reason to beat yourself up.


I wish you the best. The bike repair and rejuvination will come, after you've taken care of yourself, bro.

I said I never had much use for one.
Never said I didn't know how to use it."
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A few years ago, a guy I worked with gave me some good advice. He'd been riding motorcycles over 40yrs, so I took it.

He said there are 3 rules of riding:

1. Everyone is trying to kill you (that includes yourself)
2. WEAR THE GEAR
3. WEAR THE FUCKING GEAR.


he was wise. I'm glad you're unbusted!

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Glad to hear you made it out with all your skin, sorry bout the bike!

Ok guys, here's another dumb question from yer local supermoto'er.... ATGATT?

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There is no such thing as a stupid question, bro.

I said I never had much use for one.
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I dunno... that one seemed pretty borderline

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I dunno... that one seemed pretty borderline

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Bike seems to be running ok. A quick trip to Wheelers to sanity check and fix a stuck mirror and I was good to go.

I did some of the 28 and the dragon twice but nice and easy to clear the butterflies. Got down to Georgia for a bit too.

Still pretty sore, with one lightly scraped knee, bruised hip and a tender rib.

Examining the gear, I see scraped leather that probable saved me a square foot of skin... dented knuckle guard that might have been a broken knuckle... worn knee guard that may have saved me a bad knee... a hole in the shin of my pants that stopped at my boot armor, and scuffed boots. Helmet and visor a little scratched. So not only was it all a good investment, but now I have a good Mad Max thing going

Heading for home in the AM. I'll tally up the bike damage then.

All in all still a good trip. I learned a lot, pushed my limits, found flaws, had great weather and roads and good company.

The only thing left to do is to explain to my girlfriend that it was just a real big bug. Huge.

Thanks for all the support.

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Just tell her it was one of these:


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Just tell her it was one of these:

what the hell is that?!

I'd wig out if something like that came near me!

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what the hell is that?!

I'd wig out if something like that came near me!
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Freaking horror!!! lol

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Just tell her it was one of these:
SHOOT IT!!!!

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Actually I want one!! I could put it on my front fender, there isn't a cop around that would pull me over then!

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Was this by chance between mile markers 8 and 10 on the Robinsville side? There's a couple of decreasing radius turns there that can trip you up in a hurry if you are playing hard.

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Glad you're alright! There are a couple turns on the Cherahola that tighten up more than what you'd expect, especially since 90% of them are wide open sweepers. Thrown me for quick pucker moment a couple times, even a few years in a row.

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Kill it with fire please.

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Crashing sucks for sure! G2H you are okay - any idea on damage repair time?

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3 days after I bought mine, went down leaving the neighborhood... ~7am was cold and the tires were not warmed up - gave a little too much juice making a left turn. The ass end slung-shot me down the street about 20ft or so... not sure how/why, but I guess I tried to hold on.

Got up and collected my thoughts as traffic began to collect... rode home in dis-belief. One handed mind you, was at work by 8:30am (on the bike) with OEM pegs installed since I broke the brake lever trying to straighten it out.

Had just bought my Icon leather the night before - saved some serious road rash! Broke a toe through my slip-on leather steel towed shoes and messed my thumb up too - a cpl weeks in a temp cast until surgery, then 4 pin's and 2.5months of 1 handed ass wiping, the numbness still has yet to completely go away!

Had just started a new job too... after surgery the pin's started to "un-work" themselves (over using a busted up hand isn't good), by the time the bone was set - had 2 of 4 pin's sticking out 0.5 to 0.75 out of my skin. Cool shit!
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Crashing sucks for sure! G2H you are okay - any idea on damage repair time?

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3 days after I bought mine, went down leaving the neighborhood... ~7am was cold and the tires were not warmed up - gave a little too much juice making a left turn. The ass end slung-shot me down the street about 20ft or so... not sure how/why, but I guess I tried to hold on.

Got up and collected my thoughts as traffic began to collect... rode home in dis-belief. One handed mind you, was at work by 8:30am (on the bike) with OEM pegs installed since I broke the brake lever trying to straighten it out.

Had just bought my Icon leather the night before - saved some serious road rash! Broke a toe through my slip-on leather steel towed shoes and messed my thumb up too - a cpl weeks in a temp cast until surgery, then 4 pin's and 2.5months of 1 handed ass wiping, the numbness still has yet to completely go away!

Had just started a new job too... after surgery the pin's started to "un-work" themselves (over using a busted up hand isn't good), by the time the bone was set - had 2 of 4 pin's sticking out 0.5 to 0.75 out of my skin. Cool shit!
Ouch!

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1) That bug could eat my dog.
2) Ouch, PDX. Pins coming out of the body is horror movie stuff. Aside from numbess, all healed up?
3) Made the 1800km (1100 miles) trip home on the bike. She rides fine other than a faint wub wub sound at certain speeds - brake rotor? In any case, I'll ride till the parts are in.

I am tallying up the damage and evaluating the fix-up options. Insurance is a possibility since I have a clean record and a low rate (for Quebec).
- Tank dented
- Tail scratched
- Stator covor with half the Honda logo shaved off (I just replaced it #$%#!!)
- Gauge cover front cracked and back dented
- headlight bezel scratched
- grip looks like someone took a bite out of it
- rizoma mirror cracked
- motovation bar slider torn and bent (probably saved my lever and bars)
- Sato engine slider bent (did not snap engine mount, but will replace with motos)
- And some cosmetics like rashed signal lights, exhaust shield and a few nicks here and there.
- Gear banged up. Not sure I will do anything about that. All still useable.

New bruises have blossomed, from above left hip to mid thigh, and right ass-cheek. Rib still sore, and right wrist stiff.

Pics to follow.

On another note... When I was on the dragon Wednesday, someone went off the edge on a custom... Anyone know if they are OK?

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Wiped out on the Cherohala Skyway. Came over a hill around a bend, misjudged the next bend and could not slow in time. Tires hit gravel and I ditched when I saw the trees coming for me.

100% my fault. I was riding too hard, and I got careless.
If you didn't break your collarbone you didn't do it right and you have to go out and do it all over again until you get it right...

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