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post #1 of 13 Old 11-26-2008, 11:45 AM Thread Starter
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Helmet Rating KG$

After Sokali found a 152 G DOT helmet on clearance for $55. I propose a new helmet metric G times $. The lower the metric the best price for highest energy absorption. So the el cheapo ZRP1(with tax/shipping) ~10,000G$ or 10KG$. All helmet MFG would offer one basic model that passes the 10KG$ metric and another model at a higher price that reduces 10Gs from the current 152Gs every year until reaching 100G max. Every helmet model would post the tested Gs to inform consumers. These simple changes would save many lives!

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I think it's a great idea.

I'm also waiting on some independent testing, especially with the Snell M2010.
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There is one downside to the ZRP1, I can't use in on the track.
Most trackday organizations require Snell and DOT certification.

Dream, any idea when major manufacturers will be releasing the Snell M2010 helmets?

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There is one downside to the ZRP1, I can't use in on the track.
Most trackday organizations require Snell and DOT certification.

Dream, any idea when major manufacturers will be releasing the Snell M2010 helmets?
Isn't that interesting...

The test spec is available, so manufacturers are finalizing new model tweaks. There is surely a long line of MFG models in the Q1 test audit queue. Snell posted M2010 stickers are available in four months or April. So then new lids that pass will be flying off the shelf. However it will take longer for independent testing to measure and report measured Gs. I expect no more lid Gs than your $55 ZRP1 transfers!

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There is one downside to the ZRP1, I can't use in on the track.
Most trackday organizations require Snell and DOT certification.
After checking the helmet requirements of 4 organizers that I might do a trackday with, only Fastrack Riders requires both. And California Superbike Schools does not list it on their site; at least I couldn't find it.

Fastrack also wants an additional $75 for a second bike.
I'm teching with my Bell Sprint and riding with the Z1R on Friday.

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After checking the helmet requirements of 4 organizers that I might do a trackday with, only Fastrack Riders requires both. And California Superbike Schools does not list it on their site; at least I couldn't find it.

Fastrack also wants an additional $75 for a second bike.
I'm teching with my Bell Sprint and riding with the Z1R on Friday.
With the data available I bet more will allow (soft to hard) DOT, ECE2205, BSI. My wife tried new helmets and grieved me about changing my mind "on perfectly good lids". The AFX-90 is my DOT/ECE2205 preference as it fits my watermelon better, the ZRP1 puts pressure on my forehead. My wife noticed the ZRP1 does not have 100% liner coverage, so I'd bet their new pending model fixes that. I'm still dreaming about getting the largest shell and packing a thicker high density liner to reduce F=ma.

Have fun racing/schooling!

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With the data available I bet more will allow (soft to hard) DOT, ECE2205, BSI. My wife tried new helmets and grieved me about changing my mind "on perfectly good lids". The AFX-90 is my DOT/ECE2205 preference as it fits my watermelon better, the ZRP1 puts pressure on my forehead. My wife noticed the ZRP1 does not have 100% liner coverage, so I'd bet their new pending model fixes that. I'm still dreaming about getting the largest shell and packing a thicker high density liner to reduce F=ma.

Have fun racing/schooling!
i decided to get a shell and pack it fulla that foam i see on tv that the guy throws the egg at and it don't break.. who's gonna test it for me??



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i decided to get a shell and pack it fulla that foam i see on tv that the guy throws the egg at and it don't break.. who's gonna test it for me??
I will, if you put a Snell sticker on it.

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I will, if you put a Snell sticker on it.
sure i can get cmurphey friend to print me some up... wow this money making scheme gets easier as it goes...



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Seriously we could make a much safer helmet out of that egg protector foam and a cardboard box!

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We'd have to use a few boxes in layers, you know a box with a bigger box around it, with some of that foam in between.

Now that sould pass the Snell double drop test on a ... pillow.

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We'd have to use a few boxes in layers, you know a box with a bigger box around it, with some of that foam in between.

Now that sould pass the Snell double drop test on a ... pillow.
We would put a carbon fiber wrap around it for the new "snell-M2020" double bounce and remove one box corner to make it aerodynamic. Then lock it to your gear jacket so it takes your neck out of the equation. That would set the highest safety standard!

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