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post #2 of 18 Old 04-26-2011, 10:51 AM
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post #4 of 18 Old 04-26-2011, 11:03 AM
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worse part is.....

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The driver of the car that hit him, he says, had no driver's license and no insurance. He received multiple citations, including one for failure to control his vehicle's speed, but he wasn't arrested.
why in god's name did they NOT arrest the driver and charge him with attempted manslaughter?!

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Citations. That's it ? I hope there's jailtime in their future

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post #6 of 18 Old 04-26-2011, 11:27 AM
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Cagers rule the road in Texas. They can maim or kill bikers with vitrtual impunity. Happens every day. Worse case scenario they might get a ticket or two but usually not. I ride that particular stretch of road quite frequently, it's like the autobahn with mandatory texting. Crazy drivers weaving in n out. One of the most dangerous roads I know of for a biker. He's lucky he lived.

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Typical ... the cage driver had no insurance or license. I'll leave the obligatory flaming of inattentive cagers to the rest of you. Nonetheless, the accident was avoidable strictly by actions taken by the rider. A few points:

1 -- Always check your 6 when slowing, especially on an free/express/tollway. Drivers tend to assume the traffic will be travelling at the same speed all the time despite obvious evidence to the contrary.

2 -- Do the "What if?" game all the time. It really does help hone your survival skills.

3 -- Know how to properly control your bike. In the video the rider locks up the rear brake trying to slow down, spending valuable attention trying to keep the rear of the bike from passing the front. If the front brake was used it frees up attention to explore escape routes, in this case a quick dodge to the next lane accompanied by judicious application of throttle.

4 -- Don't ride in any large city in Texas. Self explanatory.

Thank Thor he survived, and if that's the best he can do in a marginal situation it is probably a good thing he gave up riding.

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You can clearly see in the vid that he was braking hard, too. He was puttin' out smoke from his rear tire, so he had locked up. Maybe if he had braked better with his front and had the conscience to check his mirrors, he could have seen this and moved in between the stopping vehicles to be avoided.

That's a lot to do in a little amount of time and it is hard to be that vigilant at all times.

He's lucky.

And yeah, when he had passed the car earlier, he should have steered clear - the drive was clearly distracted by the passengers.

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Disregard my post, lol. robtharlson beat me to it!

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I don't see what you guys do. I don't see any way out for this guy. With the truck right next to him he had nowhere to go. He may have fit between the truck and the car in his lane but who can say.

He was far enough ahead of the truck to give it some gas and move over before he locked the rear, but at that time, you wouldn't be able to tell fucknugget wasn't going to stop. By the time he realized that, (if he did) his braking put him right next to the truck.

Had he noticed the slow down earlier maybe he could have slowed and got behind the truck I guess. Might have just got rear-ended an 1/8 mile earlier.

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I think there was enough time (3.5 seconds?) for him to react and maneuver had he not locked the rear tire. Obviously he could've benefited from testing his maximum braking in an empty road or parking lot... but when you're hitting the brakes that hard (specially on a motorcycle), it should almost me instincts to get the f* out of the way of the car behind you. Considering how much more braking power a motorcycle has to a car, forget about looking in the mirror. If that was me, I'd of gone into the left shoulder and let that car in front take the damage. Stay on the gas so you go a couple of cars ahead too, to avoid getting squished or thrown into oncoming traffic.

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Calculating Stopping Distance

* 1 Multiply vehicle velocity (miles per hour) by 5280 feet, and divide by 3600 seconds to convert from miles per hour to feet per second.

Example: (60 miles per hour) x (5280 feet) / (3600 seconds) = 88 feet per second

* 2 All drivers require time to perceive a hazard and react by beginning to brake. Average perception time is 0.75 second, and average reaction time is also 0.75 second, for a total of 1.5 seconds. Multiply velocity in feet per second by 1.5 seconds to find the distance traveled while the driver reacts and moves to brake.

Example: (88 feet per second) x (1.5 seconds) = 132 feet

* 3 Divide the initial velocity in feet per second by a reasonable acceleration (braking causes negative acceleration) to determine how long it will take the vehicle to stop. According to the Transportation Research Board of the National Academies, acceleration of -20 feet per second is a good estimate.

Example: (88 feet per second) / (- 20 feet per second) = 4.4 seconds

* 4 Calculate the distance traveled while braking by multiplying the total time spent braking by the average velocity (initial feet per second divided by 2). This is the braking distance.

Example: (4.4 seconds) x (88 feet per second / 2) = 193.6 feet

Be aware that higher velocity means a longer braking distance, but the relationship is not linear. A change in velocity from 30 mph to 60 mph increases braking distance four times.

* 5 Add together the perception and reaction distance from Step 2 and the braking distance from Step 4 to find the total stopping distance.

Example: (132 feet) + (193.6 feet) = 325.6 feet



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No matter what happens or how it happens, it is always bikers fault. We must be aware of all possibilities to avoid stuff like this...

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If that was me I woulda hoped they kept the cameras rolling for when i got up and freaking SMASHED that dudes windows in on his car (if I was at all able to) ..... I promise if i could after going through something like that i definitely would ... lol i think that would definitely be a better spectacle than the wreck ... lolol

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post #16 of 18 Old 04-27-2011, 07:30 AM
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L-to the-MAO!! .... somebody musta been rrrrrreally frikkin bored or stupid ... !! hhahaha nice one tho ...

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post #18 of 18 Old 04-27-2011, 10:14 AM
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Its always easy to second guess and armchair quarterback after the fact. Maybe the guy *could* have avoided the accident with better skills, maybe not. Im just glad the guys survived the accident.

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