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RIP Natasha

Very sad to have lost a gifted actress.

She fell during a lesson on a beginner slope; so how could this possibly happen? No helmet, hit without arm protection to reduce Gs and ignored the snow rescue team's advice to get a scan.

No matter what sport (ski/board/cycling/motor) wear the best helmet you can (shark carbon RSR2), if you fall cover your head and get a catscan/MRI ASAP.

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Sad story, beautiful and talented woman. I have always liked and respected her husband as well, my heart goes out to him and their children.

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Sad story, beautiful and talented woman. I have always liked and respected her husband as well, my heart goes out to him and their children.
+1!

Unfortunately she joins the list of talented RIP celebs without helmets that succumbed to low speed head injuries: Sonny Bono, Michael Kennedy and Christopher Reeve. Helmet hair is a desirable fashion statement!

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+1!

Unfortunately she joins the list of talented RIP celebs without helmets that succumbed to low speed head injuries: Sonny Bono, Michael Kennedy and Christopher Reeve. Helmet hair is a desirable fashion statement!
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Very sad to have lost a gifted actress.

She fell during a lesson on a beginner slope; so how could this possibly happen? No helmet, hit without arm protection to reduce Gs and ignored the snow rescue team's advice to get a scan.

No matter what sport (ski/board/cycling/motor) wear the best helmet you can (shark carbon RSR2), if you fall cover your head and get a catscan/MRI ASAP.

Ride Safe!
Really is sad, a fall on a beginner slope ending anyone's life.

Dream, I really like that Shark RSR2 helmet also, motorcyclecloseouts has some certain sizes of them on sale as low as 199$ If any of them are your size thats a hard price to beat. I'll have to post this up in the deals thread too.
http://www.motorcyclecloseouts.com/s...ycle+helmets/6

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On a motorcycle forum you forgot Indian Larry
Thanks for the reminder, RIP Indian Larry! It's encouraging to see more cruisers replacing the law minimum brain buckets with quality full face lids!

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was wandering why it was in helmets and gear until reading

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Yep, always wear your gear, no matter the sport -

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Sad deal indeed. Prior condition maybe?

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Sad deal indeed. Prior condition maybe?
That's an EXCELLENT question! After 49r Steve Young had his bell rang bad once, if a defender barely bumped him he went out cold! I searched and found many documented cases where the relatively small second hits caused the fatal epidural hematoma. That supports short term brain repairs are not as durable as the factory spec. So if you ring your bell bad, take it easy for a year.

What's good for your heart (aspirin) isn't good for your brain!
"It is also more common in patients on anticoagulants, especially aspirin and warfarin. Patients on these medications can have a subdural hematoma with a minor injury."

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Rest in peace Natasha. Very sad story. One of my girls favorite actresses. Don't know how many times we sat down as a family and watched "Parent trap".

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I do have to say that I've never worn headgear when I'm skiing or skating. I do wear a bicycle helmet, but really have never seen anyone on the slopes in anything but a stocking cap.

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I do have to say that I've never worn headgear when I'm skiing or skating. I do wear a bicycle helmet, but really have never seen anyone on the slopes in anything but a stocking cap.
i saw the news media discussing today whether they should make helmets mandatory for skiers...

these people love to toss the word "mandatory" around alot...

i don't like that word... it scares me..



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+1!

Unfortunately she joins the list of talented RIP celebs without helmets that succumbed to low speed head injuries: Sonny Bono, Michael Kennedy and Christopher Reeve. Helmet hair is a desirable fashion statement!
christopher reeve was horse back riding wasnt he?? when he got paralized..

people have free will ... it is not right to make people wear a helmet if they don't want to..

there is no helmet law here.. but i wear my shoei cause i want to... not cause i have to...

we are going to end up as a nation like the little brother on "a christmas story" and look like the michelin man when we go outside due to all the "mandatory" safety gear..



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I do have to say that I've never worn headgear when I'm skiing or skating. I do wear a bicycle helmet, but really have never seen anyone on the slopes in anything but a stocking cap.
On Cali slopes most folks are wearing helmets..it will catch on.

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i saw the news media discussing today whether they should make helmets mandatory for skiers...

these people love to toss the word "mandatory" around alot...

i don't like that word... it scares me..
Reeve was horse jumping when he fell and broke his neck. A helmet would have reduced his impact.

A friend in a low speed accident would have died without a helmet, but needed no surgery. Emergency room brain swell reduction surgery costs several hundred grand and usually isn't successful.

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On Cali slopes most folks are wearing helmets..it will catch on.
Reeve was horse jumping when he fell and broke his neck. A helmet would have reduced his impact.
A friend in a low speed accident would have died without a helmet, but needed no surgery. Emergency room brain swell reduction surgery costs several hundred grand and usually isn't successful.
yes.... i agree helmets help...

but...

i don't think it is right to tell people they HAVE to wear one or else..

the word "mandatory" is a frightening word..



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I've always worn a helmet on motorcycles. I've always worn a helmet while cycling as an adult. I've never worn a helmet while skiing. Even when I require my girls to wear helmets and get them the best possible protection available ... I have yet even tried one on. This may have to change next year? Need to set the example. It funny how when you start them out with a helmet ... that's all they know and it's habit and second nature.

I've slammed my head pretty hard while boarding and skiing, but my biggest fear are the branches and twigs in the trees. This is what terrifies me about my girls skiing. Not so much their heads, but skiing the woods with broken and whole branches and twigs jutting horizontally at all levels.

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I've slammed my head pretty hard while boarding and skiing
well... that explains it then....



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Geeze Louise. They better not make it mandatory! I've been skiing since I was two, and never worn a helmet. I have injured a few different parts skiing and snowboarding but never my head. Usually twisting something while skiing, or spraining wrists while snowboarding. Snow is pretty soft most of the time so when I mess up going off jumps, face first into powder doesn't really hurt...

I mean, if you are a beginner stay out of the woods, and/or wear a helmet. Don't make everyone else wear them too! (we always joke on them lol)

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I mean, if you are a beginner stay out of the woods, and/or wear a helmet. Don't make everyone else wear them too! (we always joke on them lol)
You can't have your cake and eat it... I'm for personal freedoms, like the ER refusing expensive and hopeless treatment if the injured person didn't exhibit due diligence by wearing a quality helmet.

Notice how lift ticket prices have gone through the roof? $65! I bet a big chunk of that goes towards head injuries.

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This is a very sad story and I don't want to derail it at all but Christopher Reeve was wearing a helmet when he was paralyzed.

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This is a very sad story and I don't want to derail it at all but Christopher Reeve was wearing a helmet when he was paralyzed.
Thank you for the correction! It's hard to believe CR suffered so much vertebrae damage wearing a helmet falling from a horse! Hopefully helmets have improved. Always use your arms to reduce head impact. I respected CR for his courage to lobby for spinal research!

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Studies show that there has been no reduction in skiing death rates since the implementation of helmets.

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Studies show that there has been no reduction in skiing death rates since the implementation of helmets.
Really... Using similar statistics one could prove not wearing seat-belts safest and sitting on the couch is dangerous when Ben and Jerry's IC is in the freezer!

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I've been riding for fifty years last month, and coaching kid-learn-to-ski-racing for about thirty. Two years ago, I took a very hard hit from a large adult out of control on the ski area. Helmet? you bet! I was VERY lucky, had bilateral hematomas, and have just finished a couple years of multiple surgeries. the top two thirds of my skull is now titanium mesh. I've worn a helmet for more than twenty five years, ever since my kids had to wear them to ski race. Sometimes luck is good, sometimes bad.

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