One more update on the BT earpods... added custom foam and it really helps.
I bought a pack of fresh expanding foam ear plugs and cut them in 1/2. Poked a hole in them and forced them over the tip of the ear buds, after removing the stock rubber ones.
They work SOOOO much better.
What was happening is that I was getting an air tight seal with the rubber ones and they echoed every vibration. They had to be just right so as to not have pressure.
The expanding foam ones, you just roll down, pop in and they expand. They allow some air to pass and fit snug. You don't have to play with them to find the right spot and if you tug on the wires, you can't hear the vibration.
Great $3 improvement.