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post #1 of 25 Old 10-10-2015, 07:01 PM Thread Starter
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So I'm in the market for a one piece suit for the track. My textile riding jacket and pants, while allowable, just don't feel right at the track. With a new 'bundle of joy' testing my patience, the wife suggested I pull the trigger on some track gear to make sure I stick around for the long haul... I even got the okay to pick up a cheap SV650 as a track whore as long as it doesn't affect our ability to make a mortgage payment.

TLDR; Looking at track suits.

So here is the question. I thought I remember @LDH mentioning something a while back about a 'shelf life' of leather suits... Something like 10 years and the seams start to dry rot. I've got a line on a Teknic (Lightning?) track suit that fits me nearly perfect for $250 (but can probably talk the guy down). The guy bought the suit used off WERA and doesn't know the age, but if it's actually the Lightning suit, that probably dates it circa 2006ish. Not a high end suit, but I'm on a tight budget since I still need $$$ to actually go to the track.

I have however found that there a clearance on a Cortech track suit for $379 at SBTG... but none in my size online. Local shop said they would match the online price AND they have one in my size.

Both are cheap suits, and the price difference doesn't seem like much... but the used suit would allow me to also purchase a new set of gauntlet gloves and still be at or under what I would pay for the new suit.

New is great, but should the age (or uncertain age) of the used suit concern me? Used one has never been down, but does look used and worn in some places.
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post #2 of 25 Old 10-11-2015, 04:04 AM
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Not sure about age limits but dry rot is a possibility. For this $$ difference, I'd go with the new suit. You'll be able to ensure it's maintained properly and get your use out of it with no issues.

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That used suit looks well taken care of and not overly worn.

What causes most of the deterioration of older suits is people sweating in them over years and getting them wet in the rain etc. I've seen 30 year old leathers be just fine and dandy if they have been stored correctly and not worn to death.

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For your first suit, go used. You can find great deals on used suits that were worm less than 5 times overall. This will give you an idea of what you will want when you're ready to splurge on a new suit.

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Look for custom suit makers that go for value (if you wanna go that route). Spartan comes to mind as one of the makers of excellent value suits (custom and rack). Only thing is they're usually 6-8 weeks out to get your cut.

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Thanks for the feedback. I'm not trying to be cheap... It's just the end of the season and I figure I can pick up some smoking deals to get into the sport. There is lots going up for sale locally and I figured sub $400 for a new (entry level) suit was hard to pass up. $200 for the used suit really has me thinking, but the inner thighs are worn (no color left on the leather) and the perforations on the front of the suit have that 'outer layer/coat of leather is peeling' feel. It would probably serve me just fine... I just don't like replacing gear every year.

@Pvster, if you know of any used suites that have only been used 5 times and the seller doesn't want a 'next to new price'. Let me know.

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Check your local motorcycle/racing forums. Or eBay. You can usually pick one up for a good price. The goal is to introduce yourself into the sport, cheaply. Looks won't matter as long as the protection is there. Get a feel for wearing one on/off the track a couple of times abd that will help you immensely in deciding what you want/need in a new suit.

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AGV Sport Strike Leather One-Piece Race Suit Black - Sportbike Track Gear

Just to throw another option out there... This is just over $400 for a brand new suit... and looks like all sizes are in stock. I bought one of these a few months ago and have no complaints, even after a crash test...

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How would that AVG compare to this one? I can get it locally in my size (and actually try it on)?
Cortech Latigo RR One-Piece Leather Suit - Sportbike Track Gear

I'm leaning towards the used suit and picking up a better pair of gauntlet gloves that I can wear on/off the track. I just don't want to drop $200 on a suit that is going to split open in a crash.... When I could have put that money towards something better.

Instead of whining, I should probably ask what I should look out for when buying a used suit? Where is wear acceptable? Specific areas where seams tend to come apart first? Indicators that the suits safety/crashablity has been compromised?



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The Cortech is way higher up the scale than the AGV in both materials and build quality.

My wife loves hers

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Well that sounds like one hell of an endorsement for the Cortech suit... if Mrs. LDH loves hers and she is probably a WAY better rider than I will ever be, that suit should be good enough for me.



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What is your size? I have my Alpinestars suit that I crashed in once, then had repaired. It has a couple of holes, but is still fully functional (and offers protection).


I had a for sale thread on here somewhere... I'll see if I can find it.

Here you go - I'll ship it for $300 even, if you are interested.

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What is your size? I have my Alpinestars suit that I crashed in once, then had repaired. It has a couple of holes, but is still fully functional (and offers protection).

I had a for sale thread on here somewhere... I'll see if I can find it.

Here you go - I'll ship it for $300 even, if you are interested.

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That's a great deal but finding someone at that height and weight might not be easy. Although you said waist is more for 36/37.

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Thanks for the offer g00gl3it. While I am that skinny, I am not that tall. I think I'm just going to cave and get the new Cortech suit. I've really mulled over the used suit above, but ultimately, it comes down to the amount of wear on the inside of the knees (from hugging the tank). It's not worn through, but definitely worn to a light grey. And 2nd, a used suit kind of feels like wearing a pair of used underwear... fine if I'm saving lots of money, but want to avoid it if I can.

I was hoping to pick up a pair of Scorpion SG3 gloves with the money I saved on the used suit... but they may be overkill since I don't plan to race.



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And 2nd, a used suit kind of feels like wearing a pair of used underwear...

I concur...

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SBG sure gives the Cortechs good reviews.
They hands down said their Adrenaline is the best sub $1000 suit there is, noting it lists for only $800.

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I went through Pilot 5-6 yrs ago, they had a program where they'd send you a size to see if it fit you correctly. You could go off the shelf sizing, or custom fit. I remember paying around 800-900. I went full perforated as well.

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a used suit kind of feels like wearing a pair of used underwear... fine if I'm saving lots of money, but want to avoid it if I can.
Wait, you'd wear used underwear to save money?

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Wait, you'd wear used underwear to save money?
Yup. And I'd wear them until there was nothing left but a waistband.

Especially so if I saved enough money to feed my 2 wheel addiction.

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Yup. And I'd wear them until there was nothing left but a waistband. Especially so if I saved enough money to feed my 2 wheel addiction.
Do they still filter farts? Then they are acceptable!

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You'll be surprised, there are a lot of nice used suits floating around. Some disinfectant wipes and it's as clean as new lol

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You'll be surprised, there are a lot of nice used suits floating around. Some disinfectant wipes and it's as clean as new lol

Obviously my version of skidmarks and yours are different

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Obviously my version of skidmarks and yours are different
That's why you bring extra unds to the track!

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ive seen alot of good used stuff online. that being one of them. But idk. I would personally suggest going new. you have the peace of mind knowing its new, no worrys or doubts. you can personally maintain it and break it in too!


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I have a set that has been crashed in, a low side at pretty high speed, what about the thickness of the leather? Is there a rule for this?

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