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post #1 of 19 Old 06-23-2008, 01:47 PM Thread Starter
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In-depth helmet article

To Snell, or not to Snell? That is the question. Very interesting stuff--long read, but very informative.

http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/ge...iew/index.html

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That, my friend....is a looonng read.

Interesting though. I find it funny that they were surprized that Army Helo pilots helmets are better than ours.

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that was just part 1 heh =]

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Thanks for the link, it was an interesting read. I checked prices on that helmet that ranked the best (Z1R ZRP-1) and they can be found all over for under $50.00.

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"But I'm a racer," we hear you rationalizing. "I go really fast. I go so fast, in fact, that I need a very special, high-energy helmet to protect my wonderful manliness and fastness." Not so, Rossi-breath.
that's just funny! only downside to this article is that it's 3 years old now.

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I am really pissed at ALL the antiquated helmet (cycle and bike) standards! Considering the advanced materials available, you should be able to drop an egg in your $400 helmet from 40' and not break it! Fire everyone that is slowing the needed improvement in helmet standards!

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Aren't the new snell 2010 standards more in line with this study? I seem to remember reading that they have agreed that helmets are transferring too much energy.

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Here's the Snell website link noting the changes of M2010 (compared to M2005). Read it for yourself, but I gather that the main reason for the update was centered on head sizes and making the testing more accurate based on that.

http://www.smf.org/

Click on "What's New" and you'll see some documents for researching.

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Wow it took me 3 days to read that thing! Is it just me or did Snell sound like a whiney Bi*ch. They could have avoided severe damage to their brand if they didn't dig in their heels on their antiquated 50 yr old standard. Instead they should acknowledge they are open to improving their tests and would be investigating other test proceedures in the name of safety for the customers.

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Yeah i remember reading that article when it printed in the mag. since then I only use the Euro helemts; however try finding a non-Snell helemt in your local store. all of the local motorcycle dealers in my area only carry Snell helmets. And some of their staff seem to think that Snell is required by the DOT in the USA... strange. So i just have to buy my helmet online... oh well.

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SInce Motorcyclist first put this article out there has been a huge debate going on about helmets and thier protective nature - For me, Im going to get the helmet that fits my gord best . Over the years , ive found I like Arais the best, yeah a Z1R offers as good protection, but, Ill pay the extra for a lid that fits me. And, if those other lids are as good as everything says they are, why dont racers wear them ? Ive yet to see a Z1R/Zamp sponsered rider - As a matter of fact, I was really surprised to see Maladin in a Scorpion - But, Im know he has some sort of Import deal brewing , just like he has with Joe Rocket and Yoshimua ---

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Yeah i remember reading that article when it printed in the mag. since then I only use the Euro helemts; however try finding a non-Snell helemt in your local store. all of the local motorcycle dealers in my area only carry Snell helmets. And some of their staff seem to think that Snell is required by the DOT in the USA... strange. So i just have to buy my helmet online... oh well.
What Euro helmet do you recommend? I'm replacing antiquated "brain buckets".

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Possibly the cheaper helmet makers don't have racers wearing their helmets because they aren't overcharging enough to pay sponsorship money. I personally worry more about the comfort of wearing the cheap helmet than the actual safety.

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What Euro helmet do you recommend? I'm replacing antiquated "brain buckets".
I just bought a Shark RSI... it's last years model, so i got it for $184 shipped from an ebay merchant 3dcycles. Good folks. Shark has been in Europe for a long time as a racing brand and is trying to spread to the the USA market. AMA Team Honda Rider Miguel Duhamel and i believe at least one of the MotoGP riders is sponsored by them.

So far i've used the helemet to commute to work twice. Nice fit, comfy, vents well and anti fog coated visor. I have a hard time finding helmets that fit me well, i'm usually between a medium and large. This helmet's med fits me perfectly. Here's a review

Before this helmet i had a Vemar and that med was very close to being too small and the large was just too big.

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I just bought a Shark RSI... it's last years model, so i got it for $184 shipped from an ebay merchant 3dcycles. Good folks. Shark has been in Europe for a long time as a racing brand and is trying to spread to the the USA market. AMA Team Honda Rider Miguel Duhamel and i believe at least one of the MotoGP riders is sponsored by them.

So far i've used the helemet to commute to work twice. Nice fit, comfy, vents well and anti fog coated visor. I have a hard time finding helmets that fit me well, i'm usually between a medium and large. This helmet's med fits me perfectly. Here's a review

Before this helmet i had a Vemar and that med was very close to being too small and the large was just too big.
Thank You!!!! Variable density foam liner is what I need! Brains are much more delicate than current local standards protect! Upgrade your helmets!

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If people actually wore helmets that fit them correctly they would be better off than worrying about helmet standards.

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Thanks for the link, it was an interesting read. I checked prices on that helmet that ranked the best (Z1R ZRP-1) and they can be found all over for under $50.00.
Today I spoke with an MD motorcyclist that clarified why the cheap helmets have tested the safest. Their soft plastic shell flexes to crumble the non-progressive rate foam! Thus reduces deacceleration brain injuries. It is so ironic the cheaper, ugly helmets are safer!

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2ohno said "gord". heh.

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I just bought a Scorpion EXO-700 and love it. No complaints at all. Since I can't afford the brand name/well known helmets. I was looking for the best available options for my money and kept reading reviews and decided to try it out. Close-Out design price helped as well.

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