Geeze. It may not get cold in L.A., but 90 miles north it's getting cold. I rode home late tonight through mountain fog and sub-freezing temperatures - yeah, in California. I had Alpinestars Sp-2 gloves on, which normally would result in totally frozen fingers. However, I was wearing thin, nitrile rubber gloves under the Alpinestars to block the wind. This helps a LOT, but I still lust after a pair of Gerbing's T5 heated gloves.