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post #1 of 30 Old 06-21-2007, 08:34 AM Thread Starter
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Do I need a new helmet?

In my little encounter with the ground last week I scuffed up my helmet a bit. I heard that you are supposed to replace it even if it falls off your bike onto a hard surface, because the foam padding might be damaged. This might be a good excuse for me to get the Shoei X-Eleven But if I don't need a helmet, I'm gonna save myself the money.

The foam feels like it hasn't been crushed in any way, and it was only scuffed on one patch about 2x3 inches above the right side of the visor. (actually popped the visor off on that side, but went right back on)

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post #2 of 30 Old 06-21-2007, 08:36 AM
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Don't risk it. Get a new helmet. Just because the foam doesn't look compromised is not an indicator.

There can be compression cracks in the foam, or underlying damage behind the outer shell you can't see.

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The main concern is a crack in the foam. If there is a small crack it will much easier burst apart in a real crash.

My helmet fell from my mirror a few years back and it's been in the back of my head ever since. Probably hit the ground at like 5mph. If you actually crashed the helmet at speed, I'd think strongly at getting another helmet now.

I'm thinking of getting a new X-11 as well. Maybe we can get buy one get one free deal.

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The main concern is a crack in the foam. If there is a small crack it will much easier burst apart in a real crash.

My helmet fell from my mirror a few years back and it's been in the back of my head ever since. Probably hit the ground at like 5mph. If you actually crashed the helmet at speed, I'd think strongly at getting another helmet now.

I'm thinking of getting a new X-11 as well. Maybe we can get buy one get one free deal.
Lol. You buy one, I get one free right?

I can get it for 560 + tax at cyclegear with military discount. Are there any cheaper places to get it that you know of?

I dropped it off of my bike before (maybe two or three times ) and I always had a nagging in the back of my head, but now for sure I'm getting a new one. Now I'll just use it for dirtbikes. My crash was into a field so no "real hard" impact.

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Lol. You buy one, I get one free right?

I can get it for 560 + tax at cyclegear with military discount. Are there any cheaper places to get it that you know of?

I dropped it off of my bike before (maybe two or three times ) and I always had a nagging in the back of my head, but now for sure I'm getting a new one. Now I'll just use it for dirtbikes. My crash was into a field so no "real hard" impact.
I haven't shopped around yet. I'm thinking I'll buy mine this winter. I'm hoping for a good discount on the off season. For now my Shoei X-tec is holding up(I think).

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No sense in risking. Get a new lid!! Who knows if it is good or not and do you really want to test it?
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I can get it for 560 + tax at cyclegear with military discount. Are there any cheaper places to get it that you know of?
Maybe - call "The Rick" at D&D. Tell him you have talked to Mike and Jeremy anbout getting a new lid and that we told you he could at least match Cycle Gear. Odds are he will and you will deal with a good shop. They do not stock them, so there is the whole wait factor, however they are great guys and will treat you well.

Or you can just meet up with me and Jeremy one day and ride up there with us.

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From what I have been told the posssible hair line spider webs in the gel coat are what you should be worried about. The internal foam is going to do its job even if it is cracked. They say that if the gel coat is at all compromised that the helmet is much more likely to fail under crash conditions. That is why they say to trash it if it falls from handlebar height. A short fall isn't going to do anything intgernally but it will affect the gel coat.

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Hey guys, guess what I bought?
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Hey guys, guess what I bought?
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You bought a red X. I'd like to buy a vowel, please.

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Lol. You buy one, I get one free right?

I can get it for 560 + tax at cyclegear with military discount. Are there any cheaper places to get it that you know of?

I dropped it off of my bike before (maybe two or three times ) and I always had a nagging in the back of my head, but now for sure I'm getting a new one. Now I'll just use it for dirtbikes. My crash was into a field so no "real hard" impact.
Does this mean I can call you to buy stuff at discount from cycle gear?

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I was looking for a red X. We could've gotten together a group buy.

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Does this mean I can call you to buy stuff at discount from cycle gear?
Lol, yeah, I stopped there on the way to a concert at the Norva yesterday and I couldn't say no to it. I wanted it then and there, no order and wait. That would mean another trip through the HRBT in the cage.

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Hey. Nice helmet. Can I have it?

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As a side-note, you replace your helmet every five years anyway.

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Hey. Nice helmet. Can I have it?
Lol, you wish. I put it right next to my bed so when I wake up I see it. "Ahh, today is going to be a good day."

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As a side-note, you replace your helmet every five years anyway.
Who me? My helmet is 5 years old. It will reside on my head for a year longer.

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Why is it that helmets have an expiration date? You can't tell me that they go bad.

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My last helmet had a date branded into the side of it. As soon as it hit June 3rd, 2001 it melted.

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Why is it that helmets have an expiration date? You can't tell me that they go bad.
This is from the Snell Foundation website :

"Why should you replace your helmet every five years?

The five year replacement recommendation is based on a consensus by both the helmet manufacturers and the Snell Foundation. Glues, resins and other materials used in helmet production over can affect liner materials. Hair oils, body fluids and cosmetics, as well as normal "wear and tear" all contribute to helmet degradation. Petroleum based products present in cleaners, paints, fuels and other commonly encountered materials may also degrade materials used in many helmets possibly degrading performance. Additionally, experience indicates there will be a noticeable improvement in the protective characteristic of helmets over a five year period due to advances in materials, designs, production methods and the standards. Thus, the recommendation for five year helmet replacement is a judgment call stemming from a prudent safety philosophy. "

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Sounds reasonable.

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I usually get my helmets from Helmetharbor.com they are in AZ and always seem to have great prices! I have to get 2 new ones since my crash so i get to go spend Statefarms money on some new lids!!!

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you know how the shampoo ppl doubbled there money...they added derections on bottle that said rense and repeat...




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you know how the shampoo ppl doubbled there money...they added derections on bottle that said rense and repeat...
exactly my thoughts just!

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Talking depends...

with so many companies out there and different styles out now, it's all personal preference. It just boils down to what you like and fits you, just like when you buy a bike. I have a KBC VR2 Gunslinger now I liked the way it looked, so I got it. It had good reviews on it too, but noise was a factor with it. But since I've been riding with it I have no complaints at all and I get comments on it all the time. Helmets that I was looking at were AGV S4/Stealth, Scorpion 700, and KBC VR2. Here are some of the places I looked at for helmets, but ebay sometimes has good deals.



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Get a new helmet. You know you want to. And now you have a legitimate excuse!

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depends...

with so many companies out there and different styles out now, it's all personal preference. It just boils down to what you like and fits you, just like when you buy a bike. I have a KBC VR2 Gunslinger now I liked the way it looked, so I got it. It had good reviews on it too, but noise was a factor with it. But since I've been riding with it I have no complaints at all and I get comments on it all the time. Helmets that I was looking at were AGV S4/Stealth, Scorpion 700, and KBC VR2. Here are some of the places I looked at for helmets, but ebay sometimes has good deals.




http://www.extremesupply.com
http://www.accwhse.com
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com
http://store.58cycle.com
http://www.kneedraggers.com
http://www.compacc.com[/QUOTE]

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Also the UV rays degrade the helmet materials over time as well. Most companies have started using a UV resistant clear coat on their helmets now.

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