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post #1 of 21 Old 01-14-2012, 11:42 PM Thread Starter
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Anti-fog strategies

I bought a new helmet which fits a lot more snugly around my chin and cheeks, and I found I was having misting issues, even in the summer, so Itried a couple of things which I thought I could share, especially since it's winter for you northern dwellers.

The 1st was the Rain-X product which comes in the black bottle, the product designed for use on the interior of auto glass - it worked very effectively, and I'll continue with it.

The other strategy was to buy a visor insert, the type that creates a double-layered space on the visor. This double-glazing effect prevents misting, and it seems to be working really well. I've had experience with these before, and although we aren't in the depths of our winter, I have to say I'm impressed so far.

The brand I ended up with is an Italian one called Raleri. I found it here:

Raleri LightShade Anti-Fog visor insert/Clear | eBay

It was by far the cheapest option, for those of us stuck in a very non-competitive and small marketplace, and seems to be working out well. Free shipping, prompt delivery, genuine article from Italy, all good.

As a side note, the helmet vendor offered me the same kind of product made by Pinlock, using a peg-assisted mounting system already fitted to the visor. Local counter price - NZ$75 (=US$60 approx). Price for the same item in the UK - 16 (=US$24). Yee-ouch.

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post #2 of 21 Old 01-15-2012, 07:11 AM
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Thanks for recommending the rainX, i've thought before about using it but was hesitant to try it.
I had the pinlock system on my shoei rf1000 and must say that it worked so well i'm having a hard time trusting that anything else could keep a shield fog-free! that being said, i did not like how the size difference between the viewport of the helmet and the insert would result in odd distortion spots and blazing sunlight around the tinted pinlock insert. I've heard that the system on the rf1100 is better in that regard, but still a consideration.

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It seems with both interior and exterior Rain-X products that the application is crucial - put it on and wipe around, and then buff and buff and buff until all traces are gone, and then it'll be about right.

I struggled to get that right on large surfaces like car windscreens, but it's the only way.

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I just smear some dish soap on the inside of my visor and eyeglasses, and then buff it with a microfiber towel. Using this method you're usually set against fog for about 2-4 days between applications. If your in a pinch while on the road, spit works well in the short term.

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parkers perfect anti fog.... look it up... they make individual wipes for cheap and you would not believe how well they work.

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It seems with both interior and exterior Rain-X products that the application is crucial - put it on and wipe around, and then buff and buff and buff until all traces are gone, and then it'll be about right.

I struggled to get that right on large surfaces like car windscreens, but it's the only way.
You'd be amazed as to how much easier it is to scrape off ice and frost off car glass treated with RainX. (by the same token, the absolute worst is a freshly washed car or just cleaned glass, the ice absolutely fuses on ! )
I deliberately overdose all the glass panels except for the windshield just before winter.
The only real pain is the windshield. Too much causes some visual distortions under certain conditions, and the alcohol in the windshield antifreeze dissolves it away over time. One needs to do a few correct amount coatings through the winter.

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I use a bit of shampoo. Hold up well playing ice hockey holds up well in sydney weather

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If you wear Rx specs, you will probably need to get anti-fog lenses. Otherwise, the best cold weather combination I have found is the Schampa Chinguard worn covering the mouth but not the nose and a Respro Foggy mask in the helmet. This allows my breath to escape past the chin bar. I never have to worry about shield fogging other than that caused by physical exertion off the bike.
Just get the Respro Foggy and leave it in your helmet year round and forget about shield fogging.
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^ why would you EVER ride in weather like that!

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^ why would you EVER ride in weather like that!
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Just get the Respro Foggy and leave it in your helmet year round and forget about shield fogging.
I have had rime ice form on my gear in So Cal before, and as long as you remember to break it off your legs before coming to a stop it's not so bad. One thing I did notice was it actually got a bit warmer as the ice built up, and it was impossible to open my shield until I deiced it with cold tap water. At the time I was using a surplus pilot's oxygen mask to prevent misting of the shield. Worked like a charm. If I remember correctly HJC makes something similar for snowmobile use, and it's relatively inexpensive.

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Cuz he's a MAN and doesn't hide in SoCal.


It's Southern California, not Tahiti! It does get cold enough to almost make me take a car instead of riding.

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If I knew it would never get cold enough to freeze I would ride EVERY day, rain or shine.

The problem I have riding here, is I never know if it's going to rain half way through the day, and then freeze on me and leave me stranded at work...

So I can only go on quick jaunts where I can get back before the weather turns.

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I have the pinlock insert and have never had fog issues ever. Only works with the pinlock ready shields though obviously.

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If I knew it would never get cold enough to freeze I would ride EVERY day, rain or shine.

The problem I have riding here, is I never know if it's going to rain half way through the day, and then freeze on me and leave me stranded at work...

So I can only go on quick jaunts where I can get back before the weather turns.
you can ride in the ice, my dad had to do it years ago(only veh.)...it just takes forever when the throttle freezes and your brand new 71 cb500 will only rev to 1200rpm.lol

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this stuff works as advertised!
covers scratches and stops fog very well

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you can ride in the ice, my dad had to do it years ago(only veh.)...it just takes forever when the throttle freezes and your brand new 71 cb500 will only rev to 1200rpm.lol
You've apparently never seen how fast street tires slip out from under a person riding on ice


I have. ....was not pretty.

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I just smear some dish soap on the inside of my visor and eyeglasses, and then buff it with a microfiber towel. Using this method you're usually set against fog for about 2-4 days between applications. If your in a pinch while on the road, spit works well in the short term.
Nice. This reminds me of my hockey playing days,I played goal. Anyways the guys with the plastic shields would use shampoo,then buff it off with a towel. Seemed to work well for them.
I only wear my ff when is cold out,otherwise I wear my dot lid and shades. A ff just doesn't look right when your hanging off a Harley.

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You've apparently never seen how fast street tires slip out from under a person riding on ice

I have. ....was not pretty.
Ha. Yup. This December I rode my bike in from my girls which is 30 miles from my place in the city,with about 10 miles of gravel road.
I saw the ice ahead of me and knew if I throttled it the tire would spin and if I let off the engine braking would cause a slide too. I tried just to keep torque consistent. In the end I still wiped it out.
I wasn't going fast,maybe 20 mph. Bike went down then the peg scraped then stuck in the ice,bike was doing pirouettes. It looked kinda funny actually. No bike damage,thank god. Harley parts are expensive. I ended up shredding my overalls,thru 2 layers,my long johns didn't rip though. Seriously bruised butt.
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A ff just doesn't look right when your hanging off a Harley.
neither does hanging off a harley....

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Ha. Yup. This December I rode my bike in from my girls which is 30 miles from my place in the city,with about 10 miles of gravel road.
I saw the ice ahead of me and knew if I throttled it the tire would spin and if I let off the engine braking would cause a slide too. I tried just to keep torque consistent. In the end I still wiped it out.
I wasn't going fast,maybe 20 mph. Bike went down then the peg scraped then stuck in the ice,bike was doing pirouettes. It looked kinda funny actually. No bike damage,thank god. Harley parts are expensive. I ended up shredding my overalls,thru 2 layers,my long johns didn't rip though. Seriously bruised butt.
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One trick to riding in slippery conditions (applies to cages, too) is to keep it in a higher gear, especially on torquey motors.

But even on my xr600r with a full knobby, it is SNOT on straight ice. I've only had my 9'er on ice two or three times, and I was butt-puckering the entire time.

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