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Hey people, I'm Obie and (obviously) am new to this forum. I joined because I'd like to learn the do's and don'ts, if you will, of this lifestyle. And also to help figure out whick bike I want/should gwt to "pop my cherry". I'm 22 with two beautiful daughters, was raised by Harley nuts, and I like cold beer and a good time. Out the gate I know that I will have to probably take some riding courses, seeing as how I've only riden a dirtbike maybe a handfull of times, that way I don't fuck up my first bike. I really love bobbers, cafe racers, and mostly naked bikes (especially Ducati monsters and triumph speed/street triples). Anyway that's me.

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Howdy Obie from East Texas near Tyler (Troup). Best recommendation is to start smaller and work your way up and take a Motorcycle Safety Course to get your license. Too many young guys start out on liter bikes and become a statistic in the newspaper.

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Howdy Obie from East Texas near Tyler (Troup). Best recommendation is to start smaller and work your way up and take a Motorcycle Safety Course to get your license. Too many young guys start out on liter bikes and become a statistic in the newspaper.
F being a statistic and I'm originally from around Longview. The piney woods haha. And do u have any recommendations on which smaller bikes. I don't want to get something 1. That I don't like and 2. That I will outgrow quickly.

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F being a statistic and I'm originally from around Longview. The piney woods haha. And do u have any recommendations on which smaller bikes. I don't want to get something 1. That I don't like and 2. That I will outgrow quickly.
Obie, allot of new riders start out with the 250-300cc class like the Ninja or the Honda CB but quickly outgrow and move up to the 500-600cc class. But a race tuned 600cc bike is extremely powerful so don't let the cc size fool you. The V twin cruisers have larger engines but lower horse power so they're more tame if you like that style of bike and it fits your riding style. Dual sport bikes start out around 650cc and go up and won't be speed demons like a Hayubusa.

What is your budget and how will you use the bike? Looking for a commuter bike to work, weekend warrior or touring or a little off road? I started out on a Yamaha 250 back in 1968 and later got a Honda 305 Scrambler. Had a long span of no riding and came back to it about 8 years ago and got a Suzuki 650 Burgman Maxiscooter. The automatic transmission and low center of gravity made it easy for me to start back to riding and bought a few Goldwings and a few more scooters and now a 919. At first I thought the 919 was a beast and now it's much tamer and civilized to me.

Allot of new riders drop their bikes and trash the plastics which are very expensive to replace. Better to start on a naked bike that will get minimal damage. If you're buying used the Kawasaki 500 is a good beginner bike. Buying new, Honda now has some nice CB 500 & 650's which are very strong bikes but not crazy fast.

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Hello from DFW.

New riders have a constant fear of buying a bike they will just trade in after a few years.

Long time riders have a habit of trading in bikes after a few years just to see what else is out there.

In my opinion, it's generally better to ride a slow bike fast, than a fast bike slow.

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Howdy neighbor. The MSF BRC is required to get licensed in TX. Sign up and see what they have for training bikes. Just realize they have likely been abused, so will not behave like a well maintained bike ridden by someone that knows how to ride. With 6 years under my belt, I couldn't find neutral on the gz250 I was on.

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HOWDY OBIE! Wow, Texas is filling up with WT'ers.

I second Hercules' advice. Start with smaller used bike you don't mind rashing a little. The 250 & 500 ninjas are tiny and do get outgrown quickly. Since you have some dirt experience an old KLR might be a good choice. I started on a 600 Bandit which was quite docile but a little top heavy.

I will take a moment to preach a little ATTGAT though. It's important to make the commitment to yourself early on - full face lid, boots, gloves, armored knees, elbows, shoulders and back. And just never ride without your gear - never.
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I started on a ninja 250 (one month), next to a cbr600 F4i, then RC51 1000R, and then the 919. So far the 919 has been my favorite, I ride it everywhere all the time.


I highly recommend taking the safety course and it sounds like you have to in order to get an M class license in Texas?? That's a good idea actually.


Like others have said, start with something smaller to learn the basics of riding and gradually work up. Great thing about buying a starter bike is that right behind you is someone else that needs a starter bike, so you should have no problem getting rid of it. I think ninja 250's might be one of the best selling bikes ever, I even made money when I sold mine one month after I bought it!!!

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Like others have said, start with something smaller to learn the basics of riding and gradually work up. Great thing about buying a starter bike is that right behind you is someone else that needs a starter bike, so you should have no problem getting rid of it.
This. try to ride it for a year before you "upgrade". It will do you a world of good in the future. I personally recommend you try to find a dual sport and get some practice sliding around off road as well, this will help you handle situations you WILL encounter on the street. Oh, and Hello and welcome!

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Like Ken and Hercules I recommend a well used but well maintained bike to start with. I see lots of old bikes between 1000 to 2000 dollars all the time that are perfect for that purpose. Just when looking try and find one that is safe, has good tires, and good mechanicals or things that are easy to work on with elbow grease (like rebuilding the brakes, cleaning carbs, etc etc etc). If the bike looks like it has been steam cleaned I'd be a little wary, but if it is clean with dirt in the obvious places, then that means it was usually being ridden but still maintained. Eventually you will have some seemingly dumb accident, like slipping on a leaf, or putting your foot down too late and you will feel a lot better knowing you spent very little on the bike when you dump it and walk off and make it look like you meant to do that!!! A throw away bike is a perfect starter bike because you won't really get to emotionally involved in it and you know that fixing it will probably entail some form of either doing nothing, or calling Bates #1 for spares (google them for contact info in the DFW area). In fact, you might give them a call and see if they have some running recyclable bike that might be perfect for that, like an street oriented enduro/dual sport bike. Yamaha XT's are like bulletproof learner bikes if you need something to set you on a path and if you find some of the early to mid 90's models you can pick them up for a song and dance (I recommend the XT350 over the XT225 because the 225 I had was a huge pain in the ass to get started even on the hottest days of summer in DFW). Once you get used to tweaking around on a small bike for a while and get accustomed to their inherent quirks you'll probably miss it still when you move on to a bigger bike (and hell you might even keep it to go play in the dirt some). Welcome to Dallas, and if you decide you want to buy a slightly bigger and far more stylish bike I whole heartedly invite you to purchase the 1988 Honda Hawk I have for sell....

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Like Ken and Hercules I recommend a well used but well maintained bike to start with. I see lots of old bikes between 1000 to 2000 dollars all the time that are perfect for that purpose. Just when looking try and find one that is safe, has good tires, and good mechanicals or things that are easy to work on with elbow grease (like rebuilding the brakes, cleaning carbs, etc etc etc). If the bike looks like it has been steam cleaned I'd be a little wary, but if it is clean with dirt in the obvious places, then that means it was usually being ridden but still maintained. Eventually you will have some seemingly dumb accident, like slipping on a leaf, or putting your foot down too late and you will feel a lot better knowing you spent very little on the bike when you dump it and walk off and make it look like you meant to do that!!! A throw away bike is a perfect starter bike because you won't really get to emotionally involved in it and you know that fixing it will probably entail some form of either doing nothing, or calling Bates #1 for spares (google them for contact info in the DFW area). In fact, you might give them a call and see if they have some running recyclable bike that might be perfect for that, like an street oriented enduro/dual sport bike. Yamaha XT's are like bulletproof learner bikes if you need something to set you on a path and if you find some of the early to mid 90's models you can pick them up for a song and dance (I recommend the XT350 over the XT225 because the 225 I had was a huge pain in the ass to get started even on the hottest days of summer in DFW). Once you get used to tweaking around on a small bike for a while and get accustomed to their inherent quirks you'll probably miss it still when you move on to a bigger bike (and hell you might even keep it to go play in the dirt some). Welcome to Dallas, and if you decide you want to buy a slightly bigger and far more stylish bike I whole heartedly invite you to purchase the 1988 Honda Hawk I have for sell....

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On a slightly related note, we have two XT225's and I know what you mean about being a bitch to start. Our first one took the dealership a half hour to start the day we picked it up new... I'm guessing it's a float issue with how they set them from the factory or something similar. All you need to do is drain the carb and it'll fire right up every time. I can go to start it in 90 degree weather and it won't pop unless I do that, and I started it this winter when it was 30 degrees out after sitting for 6 months and drained the carb and it turned over twice and fired right up... Just figured I'd try to lend some advice...

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Here's a nice looking Suzuki Gladius 650 Streetfighter FS in Dallas. 2009 Suzuki Gladius SFV650K9 Standard

Not sure if this is too much bike for you but shouldn't outgrow it a few months.

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Wow. You dudes are awesome. I never thought I would get this much help. I do have a few questions though. I'm still a ways away from getting my first, planning on next spring. I've been wondering what I should get if I plan on keeping it for a few years (3ish). Because I want to upgrade eventually but will not be in a rush...I wants to get a Ducati Monster. So if I plan on keeping it for 3 years or so, would it be worth it to buy one new...or fimd a used one? I kind of have my eye on either a ktm 390 duke or a suzuki gw....
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These are what I'm thinking about till I build my skill set for a that beautiful Ducati
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I'd go for the KTM 390 all the way! Probably super fun, some good power (but not too much) and killer looks.

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I'd also keep an eye out for a WR250X or DRZ400SM, too. That 390 Duke is an awesome bike too. I would also recommend taking the MSF basics course before you start physically looking for motorcycles. In Massachusetts and I'm told a lot of other states taking it can save you a trip to the DMV which is always great!

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Howdy Obie from East Texas near Tyler (Troup). Best recommendation is to start smaller and work your way up and take a Motorcycle Safety Course to get your license. Too many young guys start out on liter bikes and become a statistic in the newspaper.
Totally agree. You like Ducs so how about a Monster 695?
Careful use of your right wrist when twisting the throttle goes a long way too.

Check out twtex.com for local riders. A Dallas and FtW group get together on frequent occasions and there is never a shortage of people willing to give advice on what bike to buy.

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Maybe a Grom? Na, just kidding. But I want one.

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On a slightly related note, we have two XT225's and I know what you mean about being a bitch to start. Our first one took the dealership a half hour to start the day we picked it up new... I'm guessing it's a float issue with how they set them from the factory or something similar. All you need to do is drain the carb and it'll fire right up every time. I can go to start it in 90 degree weather and it won't pop unless I do that, and I started it this winter when it was 30 degrees out after sitting for 6 months and drained the carb and it turned over twice and fired right up... Just figured I'd try to lend some advice...
Supposedly the trick to starting the XT225 without draining the fuel bowl was to llean it really far on its left side but I never could remember that for whatever reason. I think the end result was the same. I seem to think laying it over on the left side cause some of the fuel to run out of the vent and lower the fuel level in the carb. I just know it ran the batter down in no time flat either way.

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Maybe a Grom? Na, just kidding. But I want one.
Boom that's it. Problem solved guys! Grom it is!!! Hahhahahaha. They do look kinda sweet/fun tho.

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I have a 2011 CBR250R that I'm looking to get rid of.

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I'll vouch for Beef's cbr... It runs pretty damn well. Surprising for a small engine. On a side note Beef, did you ever get a chance to get by and help Jay adjust his rear shock on the 919? I'm sure missing the old girl right about now, lol..

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I'll vouch for Beef's cbr... It runs pretty damn well. Surprising for a small engine. On a side note Beef, did you ever get a chance to get by and help Jay adjust his rear shock on the 919? I'm sure missing the old girl right about now, lol..
I haven't heard from him, even sent him a PM on twtex. You're gonna miss your hawk too!

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What are you trying to get for it? Post pics?

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What are you trying to get for it? Post pics?
Depends on if you want it in it's current trim (aftermarket rearsets, full exhaust system, fuel controller) or it's stuck trim (exhaust cover is damaged, weighs atleast 18lbs more than the full system that is on it.)

I'll post recent pictures in a bit, rain is moving out of the area... There are pictures of it when I first got it here

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Depends on if you want it in it's current trim (aftermarket rearsets, full exhaust system, fuel controller) or it's stuck trim (exhaust cover is damaged, weighs atleast 18lbs more than the full system that is on it.)

I'll post recent pictures in a bit, rain is moving out of the area... There are pictures of it when I first got it here
I love that its black. Whts the price difference?

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2000 vs 2500. She's showing ~37500 which is 'high mileage' for as old as the bike is. I got it with ~35000 on the clock. Valve check showed the valves to be in spec so I rolled with it.

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I haven't heard from him, even sent him a PM on twtex. You're gonna miss your hawk too!
I think he is in the reserves so from time to time he isn't available. The Hawk I am selling is a Cali bike, definitely not my Blue Hawk. It's still on the operating table. I'm Doing all the wiring right now but I am hoping by sometime tomorrow I can spark it up and light her off!!! I'm going to finish riding it for the rest of the year and then over the winter (or whatever you want to call what we get around) am planning on sending the motor up to my guy in Ohio for what I shall refer to as the embiggening!!!! While that is going on I am going to take all the raw parts and get them anodized, painted, or Powdered...


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