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post #1 of 68 Old 10-31-2017, 08:14 PM Thread Starter
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Hi All,

In the process (well waiting now) for my 07 919. Should be here in 2 weeks. Its got 19k (km) and single owner.

I am coming from an SV650 with both street and track experience (7 years). Got a whole bunch of questions!

I guess to start with and most important is suspension.
I was thinking of slapping in my gsxr front end (06/07 600 forks, 600 lower triple, 1000 upper triple and 600 wheel). Is this a bolt on affair or will it be a nightmare? Is this also recommended?
My buddy has an ohlins shock from an 04 599. Will this fit the 919? its the 46HRCL.

Last, any to do mods? Whats the exhaust thats most recommended?

Thanks All!

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nice one if you look for threads on the forum i believe somebody made the gsxr1000 front forks work fairly easily GL with the money pit

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Lol thanks

Not many choices for rearsets it seems? Whats a good bar replacement for someone tall?

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Welcome, nice catch. I have the 06 version, same color.

There's a number of threads on front end swaps. I think the RC51 is the choice swap, others have been done and IIRC someone had machined some parts to get thing to fit.


I think someone took one of those shocks and had it reworked for the 919, one shock (don't remember which one) didn't fit quite right and mods had to be made. If you already have the shock, might be best to swap it for the correct one. The 599 might be the same name, but different bike.

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Thanks for the warm welcome all

Sorry for all the questions. I am usually pretty good at searching and do so on my late nights staying awake. What are the problem areas for these bikes? What would you say are the best mods to do that would pay off or not be a waste of money?

I've never even sat on this bike before so i am really hoping it fits as i have 36" legs. A friend of mine used to have a hornet and he's a taller rider also and had no issue. Due to a TBI i cant get out and try things on for size so really hoping this works out or ill have to dump it

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Welcome to the tribe. Nice clean ride.
For mods search is your friend. Try google "best mods wristtwisters.com". That should give some good results. Like Pair valve removal, flapper mod, 17t/44t sprocket ratio, power commander 111 etc.
Get a centrestand. Change out rear shock and get new a set of fork springs.
There is a set of Sato exhaust pipes for sale around here. Real nice.
I'm 6 foot 1 inch tall. The hornet 900 is fine for me. I just popped in some handlebar risers. I like the stock bars just wanted to be a little more upright.
Have fun emptying your wallet.

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Thanks for the warm welcome all

Sorry for all the questions. I am usually pretty good at searching and do so on my late nights staying awake. What are the problem areas for these bikes? What would you say are the best mods to do that would pay off or not be a waste of money?

I've never even sat on this bike before so i am really hoping it fits as i have 36" legs. A friend of mine used to have a hornet and he's a taller rider also and had no issue. Due to a TBI i cant get out and try things on for size so really hoping this works out or ill have to dump it
Someone posted a link to a foot rest that allows you to move it down a bit. I get muscle cramps and really would like my feet to be down lower.

I think the Corbin seat and some of the mods to the stock seat can add a bit too.

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Welcome to the tribe. Nice clean ride.
For mods search is your friend. Try google "best mods wristtwisters.com". That should give some good results. Like Pair valve removal, flapper mod, 17t/44t sprocket ratio, power commander 111 etc.
Get a centrestand. Change out rear shock and get new a set of fork springs.
There is a set of Sato exhaust pipes for sale around here. Real nice.
I'm 6 foot 1 inch tall. The hornet 900 is fine for me. I just popped in some handlebar risers. I like the stock bars just wanted to be a little more upright.
Have fun emptying your wallet.
Lol. My SV was fairly cheap fun and sold it for almost even. Seems similar to the SV scene except for the bars (SV was clip ons). Is the Ultra low recommended for tall riders? With the SV i had to adjust the rearsets but I am only seeing SATO and danmoto for options.

I had seen those sato pipes. Not bad but with such a low post count I'd be hesitant to sell to someone and not get scammed; just the nature of the beast

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Yeah I hear ya. I got scammed once. Left a bad taste in my mouth.
Delkevic make real nice exhausts. They are well made, sound nice and come in several options. I've got a pair. I'm using the Y link pipe that came with the delks to dick about with other pipe options.
I've no experience with rearsets for the 919.
Don't know about bar options either. I like the stock bars, vibes and all. Steel is real.
My back gets sore so I wanted to be a little more upright not lower.

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Hi All,

In the process (well waiting now) for my 07 919. Should be here in 2 weeks. Its got 19k (km) and single owner.

I am coming from an SV650 with both street and track experience (7 years). Got a whole bunch of questions!

I guess to start with and most important is suspension.
I was thinking of slapping in my gsxr front end (06/07 600 forks, 600 lower triple, 1000 upper triple and 600 wheel). Is this a bolt on affair or will it be a nightmare? Is this also recommended?
My buddy has an ohlins shock from an 04 599. Will this fit the 919? its the 46HRCL.

Last, any to do mods? Whats the exhaust thats most recommended?

Thanks All!

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Generally speaking, GSXRer USD front ends are shorter so one sacrifices geometry and ground clearance by using them.
Suggested is consideration of the use of F4i forks.
A serious set can easily be built, and with the substitution of a Traxxion compression adjuster, legit compression adjustment is realized.

F4i calipers give about 10 % more pad area, and have larger pistons.
Then select a nice radial master cylinder to go along with it plus braided stainless steel lines.
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Webike japan has loads of stuff for the honda 919 including a few rearsets. All looks like good quality. All look expensive too.

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bike should be here in a week if Uship carrier doesnt walk away with it.

Guess the plan will be to replace the fluids first and the spark plugs, check the valves. Anything else i should do?

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+1 to the above.
These bikes and this site have been around for over a decade. It's all been done before.
Search and you shall find.
Your bike with such low km's and one owner should be mechanically sound. With the exception of neglect and abuse.
You probably won't know what needs attention and what you don't like until you've taken the bike for several rides.
Give it a service and a flogging.
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Hi All,

In the process (well waiting now) for my 07 919. Should be here in 2 weeks. Its got 19k (km) and single owner.

I am coming from an SV650 with both street and track experience (7 years). Got a whole bunch of questions!

I guess to start with and most important is suspension.
I was thinking of slapping in my gsxr front end (06/07 600 forks, 600 lower triple, 1000 upper triple and 600 wheel). Is this a bolt on affair or will it be a nightmare? Is this also recommended?
My buddy has an ohlins shock from an 04 599. Will this fit the 919? its the 46HRCL.

Last, any to do mods? Whats the exhaust thats most recommended?

Thanks All!

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Hi n4cr

If you swap your front end, I will be willing to buy your forks .. I am also in the Toronto area

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Webike japan has loads of stuff for the honda 919 including a few rearsets. All looks like good quality. All look expensive too.
Checked out that webike site. Holy jesus, 2 rearsets. 400 and 500us (Plus shipping and taxes and 3 months wait).

WIll likely start with drop bars. I dont mind the position of my track SV but its got the drop clip ons and rear sets. Wonder if it is better to go ultra lows, street fighters or highs. I've got long legs

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Checked out that webike site. Holy jesus, 2 rearsets. 400 and 500us (Plus shipping and taxes and 3 months wait).

WIll likely start with drop bars. I dont mind the position of my track SV but its got the drop clip ons and rear sets. Wonder if it is better to go ultra lows, street fighters or highs. I've got long legs
I'm 6 ft with long legs.
Using Renthal UL bars.
Stock pegs.
What helped huge was the Corbin seat, which raises the effective (taller + less crush) seat height quite a bit.

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Checked out that webike site. Holy jesus, 2 rearsets. 400 and 500us (Plus shipping and taxes and 3 months wait).

WIll likely start with drop bars. I dont mind the position of my track SV but its got the drop clip ons and rear sets. Wonder if it is better to go ultra lows, street fighters or highs. I've got long legs
That's a pretty standard price for rearsets as far as I've seen

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I'm 6 ft with long legs.
Using Renthal UL bars.
Stock pegs.
What helped huge was the Corbin seat, which raises the effective (taller + less crush) seat height quite a bit.
What happen to those offset foot pegs that someone posted about a while back? IIRC, not too expensive and also allows more "boot room". Seems like someone could make an offset factory peg mount for pretty cheap.

If the Corbin adds 1" and the pegs add 1", with a bend leg, that should be a huge difference.

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Got a call from the transport company yesterday. Bike is picked up. Will be here tomorrow night

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Generally speaking, GSXRer USD front ends are shorter so one sacrifices geometry and ground clearance by using them.
Suggested is consideration of the use of F4i forks.
A serious set can easily be built, and with the substitution of a Traxxion compression adjuster, legit compression adjustment is realized.

F4i calipers give about 10 % more pad area, and have larger pistons.
Then select a nice radial master cylinder to go along with it plus braided stainless steel lines.
I did try to search but having found anything concrete. Excuse my ignorance....is there a certain year or parts list I should be looking for (forks, upper and lower triples, brake system etc.)

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I did try to search but having found anything concrete. Excuse my ignorance....is there a certain year or parts list I should be looking for (forks, upper and lower triples, brake system etc.)
I'm not sure whether you are referring to F4i or other bikes with potential USD front ends.

IF you are asking in terms of the F4i, I can say this:
The F4i forks will fit directly into the 919 triples.
F4i model run was from 2001 to 2006.
F4 is not same as F4i, only F4i had the externally adjustable damping screws.
The F4i forks ought to be reworked, including modifying the top-out spring to short and soft thus internally lengthening the fork to make it same as the 919.
The F4i triples look to have about 5 mm less offset than the 919, so would add some more trail, which is a good thing.
But no one has yet determined if the F4i triples are the same as the 919 re bearings and distance from top to bottom outer race resting faces.
Even then, the F4i top triple would need an adaptor mounted to it in order to receive handlebars, as the F4i used fork tube mounted clip-ons.
There is also the issue of fork stops, fork lock/ignition unit and 919 instrument cluster/headlamp mounting compatibility and/or adaptation needs.

IF you are asking in terms of a Honda USD conversion target, the best sounds to be the RC51 SP2, but they are very scarce nowadays.

IF you are asking in terms of the long list of Showa USD forks on other bikes (such as GSX-Rs), such forks are predominantly way too short.
Years ago, someone posted a table with 20ish or so forks and their lengths.
I thought I had it, but don't, and I spent time searching today for it on our website, but to no avail.

Not everyone cares about the resultant geometry and front end ride height of their 919 when they pursue an USD front end clip conversion.
If they intend to do any track days, they should.

Hopefully this helps you at least some.

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It did clarify alot, thank you for taking the time to post all of that info.

By the sounds of it, there are no simple, bolt on front end swaps unlike the SV and the gsxr swaps. Are most just doing a racetech or traxxion spring upgrade and gold valves?

Got the safety done tonight. I need tires which wasn't a shock. Also the damn bar end mirror broke off just prior to safety! I dont know what the PO did but he didnt install them correctly

Nothing too special. Definately clean. Will need to degrease in the spring but here it is about 2c out right now.
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By the sounds of it, there are no simple, bolt on front end swaps unlike the SV and the gsxr swaps.

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Are most just doing a racetech or traxxion spring upgrade and gold valves?
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Correct.
And I suggest not to focus on just the mechanical ease, and be sure to also include the resultant ride height and front end geometry. Personally, my primary concern is ride height, C of G height, and front end geometry.

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Some just do springs and oil.
Some then add valves, be they Traxxion, Racetech or Ohlins.
Any F4i fork being valved and sprung begs for a revised topout spring and a Traxxion compression needle.

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I got the bike officially registered to my name and insurance put on it.

A few things...the back end (plastics) are all loose. Entire tail piece and the rear signal light are loose. The wiring is also not the greatest so going to rewire the integrated tail.

Tires are shot. Rear tire is "flat" and squared off. Front has limited thread left. Both tires Circa 2010 so ill be replacing these.

Right exhaust has a rattle likely from the bafflectomy gone wrong.
Clutch engagement point is very high; PO installed the bar end mirrors wrong and was at half engagement due to it hitting the mount for the bar end (bang head!).

The front end feels very heavy and difficult to turn in....tires? Head stem bearing? (not tire pressure as i checked that)

Those are the big things I have to work on...


Bike feels short to me. I kept trying to get back on seat without luck. Handle bars are in my face so ill likely do the ultra lows. On the plus side, the 919 is alot faster than the SV and its very comfortable. Power is predictable without being overpowering. Love the exhaust but i am used to loud exhausts and this isnt loud. PAIR system sounds great on the decel.

T-Rex wont ship to canada without ridiculous shipping charges (50 bucks for the sliders and 37 to ship). Will have to figure a way around that.

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Bike feels short to me. I kept trying to get back on seat without luck. Handle bars are in my face...
A Corbin would fix that right up too.

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Bike feels short to me. I kept trying to get back on seat without luck.
The stock seat has a ton of wiggle room.. You can build up something beneath the front of it where it slides under the tank to lock in and it will cant the seat backwards slightly which will help (I used a thick piece of rubber.. others have used cardboard and duct tape) This doesn't make it perfect but definitely helps.

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I have a Corbin seat I'd potentially be willing to part ways with if you're interested. It's brand new this year. I'm looking to sell my 919 in the spring. I'm also located in Toronto.


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Ordered new tires (Pilot Road 2) and Renthal ultra lows in gold.

Really had no idea what kind of tire i should get. I am used to the Pilot Power CT2 on both my road and track bike. Fantastic tires but when it came to the CB, I had no idea. I do enjoy leaning over and rarely ride in the rain (unless not by choice) but I am hoping once I get healthy again from my post concussive syndrome i'll be able to live my dreams again and get out there.


Is it just me or does anyone else find the speedo very hard to read?

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You might look into whether or not you need glasses, mate.

Kidding, kidding...

It's a bit on the small side, admittedly. Once you get used to which ticks are the ones you care about though, it's not as big a deal.

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First mod....
Replaced the "upgraded" led turns that the PO had. Could barely see in the daylight.

Handlebars and tires are arriving tomorrow. Hopefully can get in a few km to see if it helps with the turn in feel
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Is it just me or does anyone else find the speedo very hard to read?
I really do not like the black backing on the gauges.
At around dusk I find the gauges harder to read, one really has to look and not just glance.
Once it is dark, it's not as bad.
I wish the backing was white.

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I really do not like the black backing on the gauges.
At around dusk I find the gauges harder to read, one really has to look and not just glance.
Once it is dark, it's not as bad.
I wish the backing was white.
Has anyone explorered face swaps to possibly something more legible? Is it worth while to change the bulbs to a different colour (no i'm not a ricer) thinking like pure white or something?

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Here is a thread where someone changed the bulb colour.
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I have thought about doing it but only for shits and giggles. I think a white bulb would be too bright at night. As well a white backing on the two gauges would make a lot of glare in the day. Although I have seen the 600 hornets with white backed gauges.
Our Australian/asian bikes have a much less cluttered speedo gauge since it's only showing one set of figures in Km's per hour.
You could always swap out dash for a led type.
Get glasses!

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I really do not like the black backing on the gauges.
At around dusk I find the gauges harder to read, one really has to look and not just glance.
Once it is dark, it's not as bad.
I wish the backing was white.
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Here is a thread where someone changed the bulb colour.
Changed my 919's instrument cluster lights... - Wrist Twisters
I have thought about doing it but only for shits and giggles. I think a white bulb would be too bright at night. As well a white backing on the two gauges would make a lot of glare in the day. Although I have seen the 600 hornets with white backed gauges.
Our Australian/asian bikes have a much less cluttered speedo gauge since it's only showing one set of figures in Km's per hour.
You could always swap out dash for a led type.
Get glasses!
Lol my visions isnt terrible! I do have some vestibular issues so i really limit my riding right now (essentially things are a bit blurry so i'm limited to only a few km by choice).

Got some new tires put on today. Snapped the bar end mirror again so ordered some chinese knock offs. If these break again than i'll grab so CRG arrows.

Thinking next on the list is the exhaust. The PO did the mufflerectomy but it sounds like something is rattling around.

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I put on a pair of Delkevic pipes and was very happy with them. They weren't expensive but well made. Sound great. Come in a heap of styles. They also came with a stainless single Y link pipe. You remove the honda Y pipe. You can use the Delkevic link pipe to fit a variety of 51mm end cans. I believe the Delkevic Y link pipe can be brought separate. Right now I'm rocking a pair of cheap chinese cans mounted on the Delkevic Y link pipe. Very loud! But fun.

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