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post #1 of 13 Old 02-26-2007, 01:31 AM Thread Starter
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Toll Rate Recommendation for Motorcycles

Go here www.wsdot.wa.gov/projects/sr16narrowsbridge/feedback/cac-feedback.cfm
tell them that motorcycles should cross the new Tacoma Narrows Bridge for free.

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post #2 of 13 Old 02-26-2007, 07:17 AM
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If anyone is curious about what happened to the old Tacoma Narrows bridge...

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Hopefully they'll build it better this time.

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why should motorcycles cross for free?

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why should motorcycles cross for free?
1. Cuz bikes are cool.

2. Less wear and tear on the bridge??

3. Cuz its hard to look cool while you struggle to take off you gloves to dig change outta your pockets??

4. M/C riders are such badarses it would put the tollbooth attendants at risk having to deal with us. Not to mention the danger to the Hyundai driver behind us that honks while we are trying to look cool while getting out change out.

5. I forgot my wallet

6. I overslept and I'm already late and dont have time to stop and pay.

7. It would annoy all the cagers when you rode by them going "neeener neeener I dont have to PaAAyyyy" while giving them the bird.

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Is there a foot traffic lane? Just use it, I'm sure they won't mind.........

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Is there a foot traffic lane? Just use it, I'm sure they won't mind.........
We have the similar suspension bridge in Vancouver, the Lion's Gate, every once and a while you'll see a white-knuckled scooter rider crossing on the sidewalk.

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post #7 of 13 Old 02-26-2007, 04:09 PM Thread Starter
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why should motorcycles cross for free?
the main reason there's a new bridge is because traffic congestion was overtaking the other one, and it was really old. Since motorcycles use less space on the road, having an incentive to encourage more space efficient transportation can only help; especially when in the next 5 years the new bridge will probably be overwhelmed by the ever increasing population of automobiles.

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i respectfully disagree. although a motorcycle may take up less of a physical footprint it's still entitled to, and riders demand, the same (if not more) comfort zone as when in a cage.

I've found far more people tailgate me when I'm in the truck than when I'm on the bike, therefore as congestion goes it's conceivable that a bike actually adds to the congestion because many cagers give it more room from behind.

The bridge financiers see it as an investment and expect people to pay the toll for the convenience of crossing the narrows, they wont be swayed by our choice of riding versus driving.

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You're a lucky guy if you're being tailgated more in a cage than on the bike. Cages are all over my rear tire when i'm on the bike. I don't think it would be too much to ask that bikes pay a reduced fee on tolls, since we cause less wear and tear, but I don't think bikes should get off free.

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well then perhaps I'm lucky. But I do commute 5 days a week on the bike 50 miles round trip and have for over a year now. If it were nothing but luck I think my tailgating luck would've run out by now.

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well then perhaps I'm lucky. But I do commute 5 days a week on the bike 50 miles round trip and have for over a year now. If it were nothing but luck I think my tailgating luck would've run out by now.
Jet, Don't confuse your luck with your tremendous skill. I get tailgated a lot, which usually stops by flashing my brake light. If it doesn't I change lanes and wave the J/A by.

I'm all for paying for my privilege to cross a bridge on my cycle, I just expect the high impact heavy trucks to pay more! There's no reason to take your gloves off and wallet out in Cali. We have high tech fastrack transponders! The motorcycle version is weatherproof! Their system is so smart it won't let you interchange transponders from vehicles!

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i respectfully disagree. although a motorcycle may take up less of a physical footprint it's still entitled to, and riders demand, the same (if not more) comfort zone as when in a cage.
I would be an interesting test to say the least. I have a hunch that if you put 6k motorcycles on a strip of interstate (or hwy) with a 100 or so cages sprinkled in. you'd have a much smoother traffic flow vs the other way around.

Also consider how slow cages enter and exit the slab... bikes can generally do this much more effciently. this is the source of most of the back up problems out here.

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I would be an interesting test to say the least. I have a hunch that if you put 6k motorcycles on a strip of interstate (or hwy) with a 100 or so cages sprinkled in. you'd have a much smoother traffic flow vs the other way around.
It would be interesting to see the accident stats from the Sturgis rally. If you remove the alcohol and the breakdown stats that density is extremely safe.

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