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post #1 of 10 Old 05-14-2008, 12:15 PM Thread Starter
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post #2 of 10 Old 05-14-2008, 12:57 PM
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"The 7-day vehicle seizure and licence suspension has been positioned by our elected officials in a variety of descriptions as this law was initially implemented as a means to stop "street racing", but continues to punish thousands of citizens who were not convicted of behaving in this manner."

Thousands of people (my red emphasis added)? That many people street racing that the cops can't tell who's racing and not? Maybe I'm missing something, and I'm not trying to pick a fight, but that seems like embellishment.

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If they record you with the dashboard cam violating the law, drag racing, wreckless driving it's about the same thing here. Go to jail, loose your vehicle.

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If they record you with the dashboard cam violating the law, drag racing, wreckless driving it's about the same thing here. Go to jail, loose your vehicle.

It used ot be at the discresion of the cop - My wife got pulled over for " racing " a mustang she was passing in her Metro - $250 bucks later, the ticket was dropped - Imagine , a mighty 1.0 3 cyclinder taking out a 5.0 mustang, please !

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This Canadian law does not address the much bigger problem. Ninety-five percent of the US ~42,000 road deaths each year are caused by cagers with >10X the kinetic energy of bikes. Today I almost got ran over by a cage running a stop sign. I observe TOO MANY cagers doing dangerous illegal maneuvers and they go completely unnoticed!

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with >10X the kinetic energy of bikes.
I know right. They should calculate the potential for harm, then drop the fines accordingly. Or just let us ride 17x's the speed limit!

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"The 7-day vehicle seizure and licence suspension has been positioned by our elected officials in a variety of descriptions as this law was initially implemented as a means to stop "street racing", but continues to punish thousands of citizens who were not convicted of behaving in this manner."

Thousands of people (my red emphasis added)? That many people street racing that the cops can't tell who's racing and not? Maybe I'm missing something, and I'm not trying to pick a fight, but that seems like embellishment.
Depends on how they define "street racing" or if they define it at all. The bigger issue here is the road side prosecution. The judge's gavel doesn't fit in the hands of a cop.

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The judge's gavel doesn't fit in the hands of a cop.
Here! here! Excellent quote!

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Depends on how they define "street racing" or if they define it at all. The bigger issue here is the road side prosecution. The judge's gavel doesn't fit in the hands of a cop.
Good point!

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.....you know what... I just spent twenty minutes writing an informative analysis of the aforementioned bill weighing it's attributes and flaws, and realized I could write a paper regarding the negative consequences of Bill 203....so I deleted it.

Insurance in this province is absolutely retarded. I have a perfect record -not even a parking ticket, MSF cert, and 6 years experience and with liability only insurance the best quote I got in Ontario was nearly $4000 a year.

Paired to the ludicrous insurance is the Bill that also gives ridiculous powers to the officer that have not even been mentioned in this thread. (driving in the rain/snow -or simply going around a corner, all at the legal limit, spinning/squealing tires, and wheelies all have the same consequences as well.)

Here I go again...

Long story short, this is why I moved to Quebec.

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