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The dragster look

Is this the coming trend? Abbreviated rear ends behind solo saddles? Is the expectation that you have other bikes to choose from when you want to ride two-up?

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Been riding Vic's for 10 years as my primary bikes. Seriously considering selling one of my bikes to buy one next year when they go into production. They will be fast for a v-twin ( water-cooled and close to 85 horses factory)but won't run with a 919 or fz 09 or any midsize sporty bike.
However, Vic bikes are bulletproof and go fast farkles become available ( cams etc...) soon after introduction.

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Is this the coming trend? Abbreviated rear ends behind solo saddles?
Or maybe just a bit of throwback styling with a nod to the ol' Harley XR750?

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They will be fast for a v-twin ( water-cooled and close to 85 horses factory)but won't run with a 919 or fz 09 or any midsize sporty bike.
I'm sorry... what? 85 hp v-twin is considered fast for a v-twin? I beg to differ. Seems Victory is just trying to take Harley's market share.

Sigh, really wish an American company would actually listen and produce bikes that Americans want! Not 90's technology that Ducati has finally let go of.

Even Aprilia had v-twins that made 145 hp. Don't for the KTMs and Ducatis. Now THAT is fast... I don't mind throwbacks in terms of looks. But that doesn't mean the technology needs to also be a throwback as well.

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1: if you want to ride solo, and feel cool, you can buy a solo bike. It's one of my favorite features of my rc51. I am also blessed with a lady who much prefers (and is quite competent) to ride her own bike.
2: wtf kind of a collector/merge pipe abortion is that? I puked a little, and now it's hard to look at the rest of the bike.
3: kiiiiinda looks like... Another affliction-shirt and bedazzled pants bike.
4: I bet customers would buy them, they will quickly (if they already haven't) have their own forum, the aftermarket will support them ( I watched a guy on a Vision run mid 11's all day, and then pull his rain gear out of his bag to ride it home from the track, and it was all bolt-on goodies that some company sells to anybody) and victory will save some people from diving into the HD world. That is their goal, isn't it? Make profitable business decisions?
5: what is it that American buyers want? I have drag bikes, road course bikes, cruisers, touring bikes, and a small fleet of minibikes just because I like two wheeled things. None of them are really high-dollar machines or exotic, but I can have them, so I do. The market is a wide range of products and preferences.
6: I won't buy one off the showroom, but I kinda dig it. That header really needs to be fixed though.

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I'm sorry... what? 85 hp v-twin is considered fast for a v-twin? I beg to differ. Seems Victory is just trying to take Harley's market share.

Sigh, really wish an American company would actually listen and produce bikes that Americans want! Not 90's technology that Ducati has finally let go of.

Even Aprilia had v-twins that made 145 hp. Don't for the KTMs and Ducatis. Now THAT is fast... I don't mind throwbacks in terms of looks. But that doesn't mean the technology needs to also be a throwback as well.
Most v-twin riders don't ride Aprilia, Ducati or ktm. they ride 900 cc vulcans,750cc hondas, or 650,900etc.. stars. Of course 85 hp is not fast to most of us but it is to harley riders, most Vic riders and the riders of the aforementioned bikes.

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Most v-twin riders don't ride Aprilia, Ducati or ktm. they ride 900 cc vulcans,750cc hondas, or 650,900etc.. stars. Of course 85 hp is not fast to most of us but it is to harley riders, most Vic riders and the riders of the aforementioned bikes.
True that...85 ponies is more than most Vtwins are pumping out, even Harley's big 103 is only about 75hp....even the big Japanese Vtwins don't break 100hp until ya get into the street monsters like the M109 which is like a 1783cc = 108.8cu

The victory is a pretty cool looking bike made all the more appealing as its not a Harley, gotta agree with SCRAT on the exhaust...something gots to be done!

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Most v-twin riders don't ride Aprilia, Ducati or ktm. they ride 900 cc vulcans,750cc hondas, or 650,900etc.. stars. Of course 85 hp is not fast to most of us but it is to harley riders, most Vic riders and the riders of the aforementioned bikes.
That is precisely my point. Stop dumbing down the v-twins!

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post #14 of 26 Old 12-17-2015, 08:17 AM
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Radial Brakes with dual front disks, USD forks, water cooled, fuel injection, ohlins suspension, tach,... Seems like almost everything I would want if I were in the cruiser market. V-4 would be better, but take that V-Twin and lighten the flywheel to get rid of that rubber band effect and ride it like you stole it.



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Radial Brakes with dual front disks, USD forks, water cooled, fuel injection, ohlins suspension, tach,... Seems like almost everything I would want if I were in the cruiser market.
Yep. If H-D made bikes like that, they could afford to get out of the clothing business. That bike is pretty much everything that H-D haters wish H-D would build.

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Yep. If H-D made bikes like that, they could afford to get out of the clothing business. That bike is pretty much everything that H-D haters wish H-D would build.
And more than 85 bhp. Seriously...

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To me it looks like their take on the vrod.

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There are a lot of guys with 11 sec. 1/4 mile Vic. It is easy to get 125 tq and 110 to 120 horses. Also, the 106, 100 and 92 ci. are easily boosted over 110 horses for under $2,000. There are three shops that specialize in making Vic's quick. Rylan Voss in the midwest, Kevin Cross in Florida, and Lloyd in Pine Bush NY.
Sure, they're still heavy, but I think 11 sec's is a good time, even for my 919.
Rant over.

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Rant over.
Rant all you want. 85 horses from the factory just doesn't cut it anymore. We need American bikes that will appeal to the younger buyers.

It's great that vics have awesome aftermarket support. But it's still aftermarket and in addition to purchase price.

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To me it looks like their take on the vrod.
Only with 20 more horses and 100 lbs or so less to carry around.

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Well now they got rid of all the stuff that made the prototype cool... NOW its just another cruiser with dated technology.



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Should be called the dragqueen look. All show, no go and not the equipment you'd want.

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Should be called the dragqueen look. All show, no go and not the equipment you'd want.
Quoted for truth.

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...dragqueen... ...not the equipment you'd want.
he he... I see what you did there.



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I wonder how that fairing would look on the 9er?


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