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RC51 advice, suggestions

Just thought I'd throw this out there...

Looking for advice/thoughts??? Whatever you've done or heard of. Things that worked or didn't work?

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What kind of advice or suggestions?

What do you want to do?

Advice could be keep air in the tires, or be sure to double check gap in the spark plugs.

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He's done the flapper, has the Jardine 2-1 and PC3 (not custom mapped yet) and Dunlop Q's are on the way. Likes the idea of the HRC throttle.

Basically, he wants to make sure I don't catch up to him on my 600RR...

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Haha! I had the 600RR and I have 2 RC51s...

I somehow enjoy the RCs more. I would not take anything away from the RR though.

For me, I am weakest on brakes, so I took to making me more comfortable.

Tires and Braded brake lines were first.

Brake pads were the next addition.

THen there was Suspension! Dan Kyle has redone my forks and Thermosman has overhauled my penske for me (penske will also give you the ride height the RC needs). This is huge!

A Brembo 19x18 master cylinder is on the way. All of this is for control, not power.

Upgrading you wheels to have a lower MOI is also helpful for the RC. This will help with turn in and acceleration.

Regearing is also good. The stock gearing is too high!

Stay away from after maket filters and V-stacks for the RC. Not worth the money for the negative effects some have on the bike.

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I'm pretty happy w/ the feel of brakes & suspension. Although I plan on trying different settings just to see... The gearing is high...
Did take the screens off the stock air filters.

What about Pair(?) check valve removal?

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The pair valve removal was am improvement for my bike. I did it at the same time as the flapper valve removal. I lost the flat spot in the lower midrange and my bike ran a little cooler.

Advice of what not to do... the cam silencing gears. Not one bit of a performance help and you have to listen to a bike that sounds as if it could blow up at any given moment.

As for brakes - do you have after market lines and pads? If not, please ride one that does. It will be your next purchase, they do get that much better.

Aftermarket Suspension is not necessary for riding, but like the brakes, when you ride one that has it, you will see the difference and throw money at it.

Do the "soft rev mod" also. Big help for track riding. Those extra couple hundred RPMs can help you get around some bad shift points at VIR.

Another free-ish mod. If you want the bike to turn in better, you can put a shim/spacer (read: big ass washer) between the top mount braket and the frame. Your bike will look funny sitting on the kick stand, but it will definately help with turn it. I also run a 180/55 tire when I reun street tiers. I run a 190/55 when I run race tires. I do not advocate the use of a 190/50 unless you only ride in straight lines.

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No, he doesn't have the lines and perf. pads, but if he doesn't do them before the riding season starts, he'll experience them when he takes mine for a spin come springtime.

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f4iguy; Thanks for the info... I'm comfortable w/ brakes, but as you put it, I haven't rode one w/ aftermarkets' so I will have to look into pads and/or lines.

As I understand it, only the U.S. bikes have the "soft-rev"(?) which starts @ 9.5 rpm's??? By bypassing, is the "hard-rev" still there?

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Yes it is still there and works fine. I have found it on too many occassions at the track. You will gain an additional 700 rpms or so, just like the euro model.

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If you promise to treat her nicely, while I rape the RC.

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Do a search! Oh wait...

Do you have a steering damper? Speaking of handling...

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Do you have a steering damper? Speaking of handling...

nope. do you really need? i've never had a problem where i would think of getting one.

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My first tank slapper experience was on the street. I was accelerating on an on-ramp when I made contact with a road joint that was not smooth. I went to full lock twice and recovered.

I ordered a steering damper that night. Never had a problem since.

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so far... knock on wood... i haven't even come close to a tank-slapper (on rc). and being in new york, the cracks, tar strips, heaves, pot-holes, are plenty. the one thing i really like is that the front end feels planted, unlike the 929 which always feels like its gonna wash out on me.

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Yeah well, I have a funny feeling that we'll be riding so hard this coming season that we'll both end up needing them.

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Ask Shep if you need a damper and he will tell you that you definitely do need one. Had he had one on his RC51, he may not have went into violent tank slapper and hit a wall sending the bike into a ball of flames.

Personally I think any bike bigger then a 600 needs a damper without a question. I also think that all sport bikes should come stock with one like the gixxers do.

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like i said, i haven't "needed" one, but the one time it does happen i'm sure everyone will be there to say 'i told you so...'
any recommendations?

once the snow melts i'll be trying out bro's cbr1000, which comes stock w/ a damper... eh.

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Personally I think any bike bigger then a 600 needs a damper without a question. I also think that all sport bikes should come stock with one like the gixxers do.
Thats because you have little girlie arms!

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I like the Scotts.

Of course everyone has opinions and usually like whatever it is they have.

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like i said, i haven't "needed" one, but the one time it does happen i'm sure everyone will be there to say 'i told you so...'
any recommendations?

once the snow melts i'll be trying out bro's cbr1000, which comes stock w/ a damper... eh.
Listen eh, doesn't matter what one you get, just get one!
Scott's or Ohlins are good, I would take either one of those.
Your brother will have the stock Honda one which is electronic I do believe and it's amazing! Rode my friend's 1000RR and was very impressed.


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ok ok... i was just pickin', eh.
It's not like i called ya 'babe' or 'baby'... eh?

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SCOTTS IS THE BEST....cause I have one. :P

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Ask Shep if you need a damper and he will tell you that you definitely do need one. Had he had one on his RC51, he may not have went into violent tank slapper and hit a wall sending the bike into a ball of flames.

Personally I think any bike bigger then a 600 needs a damper without a question. I also think that all sport bikes should come stock with one like the gixxers do.
Where is Shep these days? I think he popped into Rogue for a minute a few months ago, and not a thing since.

I have no damper on my RC, I do have the link that raises the rear, I don't have the gnarly profile tires. I love the faster feel of the steering, but I can feel the twitch now. On the hunt for the 00 Ohlins setup. Almost got a Pitbull, but you have to cut and shut your brace. I still might, they seem the nicest of the rotaries.

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Where is Shep these days? I think he popped into Rogue for a minute a few months ago, and not a thing since.
He's around, I get a call from him every so often.
He was on here before the *ahem* crash, I'll email him again to get his ass back on here.

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Did he have another crash after the Mosport shunt?

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He's around, I get a call from him every so often.
He was on here before the *ahem* crash, I'll email him again to get his ass back on here.

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Did he have another crash after the Mosport shunt?
I think she means the crash of Wrist Twisters that happened a couple weeks ago.

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That's good, you don't want to crumple up a bike like he did too often.

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No, Marcus hasn't rode since that bad crash.
He's back to work but hasn't gotten a bike since the crash at Mosport. We did find his bike for sale at a local dealership not too long ago, laughed at the description which was "minor damage".

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Tell him to get back on it. Mosport is notorious, so need to go back there though.

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Yes Mosport is known for being a track that can bite you hard in the ass!
Corner 2 is probably the worse corner, lost a rider this past season on that corner on a track day, very sad.
I actually tell anyone doing a track day not to go to Mosport as your first track day. Go to Shannonville a couple of times before Mosport.

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Anyone know where I can find the hrc 1/6 throttle for '04 rc51?
...or at least part number?

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1/6th turn?

1/5th turn form Dan Kyle.

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What he didn't mention is that Kyle must have increased the price from $80 to $100 in the last couple weeks and that's a little high.
They also bumped the one for the 600RR from $80 to $120.

Kyle actually lists it as 1/6th turn and according to my math after installing mine, it is actually 1/6th.

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like i said, i haven't "needed" one, but the one time it does happen i'm sure everyone will be there to say 'i told you so...'
any recommendations?

once the snow melts i'll be trying out bro's cbr1000, which comes stock w/ a damper... eh.
I like the Scotts on the RC.

One word of advice (now on my 3rd RC). If you do track, think of using the stock exhaust. Yeh, it's heavier. It doesn't sound as nice. But, much lighter on the wallet in a get off.

Stock seat great for track. Corbin for street.

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HAHAHAHAHA even your rear brake line is yellow? You loser!!

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