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Road America, here I come!

Not on a bike though... too early in the season for that(WAY too cold)

April 13th.

The weapon:

Rice-a-roni!


This pic was taken mid way through the work.

Lots done to it.

Coil-over suspension
Larger swaybars, strut bars
Big Fat Turbo
Gutted everything not needed.
Battery in rear
4 piston front caliper big brake kit w/metal composite race pads
Braided brake lines
Full 3" exhaust
Bigger injectors/fuel pump
Retuned mapping
Balanced at all 4 corners
3 sets of wheels with 3 sets of race tires(2 compounds)
Race seats w/5point harness
etc etc...

The car pulls like crazy, the brakes make you vomit, the suspension rails it through corners...

Hopefully it's a positive experience.

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For us non- car peeps, WTF is it?

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For us non- car peeps, WTF is it?
Eagle Talon

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Oooo! I wanna watch! Is it for a race or just a trackday?

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Oooo! I wanna watch! Is it for a race or just a trackday?
Track Day.

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Nice ride - you had it on a dyno ?

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Looks nice.
What kind of numbers are you putting out?

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AWESOME. Have fun Rag, be safe.

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I'll come out & drive it for ya, since they don't make helmets to fit your melon.

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Is this what became of your Porsche vs. Lotus. vs. other debate a few weeks ago???

If so, it looks like you made a less than practical decision.........which deserves loud applause!!

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Nice ride - you had it on a dyno ?
Did a few dyno runs last week. Runs around 300hp at the wheels.

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I'll come out & drive it for ya, since they don't make helmets to fit your melon.
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Is this what became of your car vs. car. vs. other debate a few weeks ago???

If so, it looks like you made a less than practical decision.........which deserves loud applause!!
This is a partnered car.

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My buddy is a well known DSM tooner in the NW. He had his 92 talon running 10.8's. Then his business started leaning towards Lancer evolutions. His wifes "family" car is a 04 evo, just dyno'ed 475whp on stock turbo(currently the record for stock turbo in US). One of his customers just put down 1075ish awhp, and this is the current record for a 2.0l evo motor. And it is far from a driver(drag only). On his last motor he was running mid 9's in the mid-high 150's. Looks like you are more into auto cross, but those cars are fun.

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cool deal I wanna watch too! Sounds fun! Does it have a John Shepard Tranny Ha ha

I believe that is the name of the dude that done a 7 sec 1/4 in a talon, seriously built for drag. Good Luck!

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My buddy is a well known DSM tooner in the NW. He had his 92 talon running 10.8's. Then his business started leaning towards Lancer evolutions. His wifes "family" car is a 04 evo, just dyno'ed 475whp on stock turbo(currently the record for stock turbo in US). One of his customers just put down 1075ish awhp, and this is the current record for a 2.0l evo motor. And it is far from a driver(drag only). On his last motor he was running mid 9's in the mid-high 150's. Looks like you are more into auto cross, but those cars are fun.

No kidding eh? That's crazy power. A friend of mine has an 06 Evo. He changed out the cams, full exhaust, air intake, larger intercooler, and he's right around 420hp. It's crazy.

We put the larger turbo on the Talon this week, we're going to dyno it again. It'll be well over 300hp now(sorry for the confusion).

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That's awesome rags, have fun.

BTW, do you have to do anything to the drivetrain to handle the extra power, or is it pretty bullet proof?

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In some countries after your time, they call them Automobiles. Others even call them Vehicles.


Have Fun With that Rag!

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That's awesome rags, have fun.

BTW, do you have to do anything to the drivetrain to handle the extra power, or is it pretty bullet proof?
They're pretty tough. The driveshafts are built tougher than some high end/power cars.

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That should be a blast Rags, we expect a full report and pics when you're done though.




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Elkhart Lake, WI weather:

Apr 13 Sunday
Rain and snow showers. Highs in the low 40s and lows in the upper 20s.



sigh... We'll make the best of it.

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Your in an AWD - use it ! Spank the RWD cars sans mercy !

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Your in an AWD - use it ! Spank the RWD cars sans mercy !
There is going to a be a fair share of drifting I'm thinking.

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You look frigging awesome in your ride, ragdoll. Good luck.


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Elkhart Lake, WI weather:

Apr 13 Sunday
Rain and snow showers. Highs in the low 40s and lows in the upper 20s.



sigh... We'll make the best of it.
What a drag. WI spring favors no one!

You look good in the Talon. Lol!

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There is going to a be a fair share of drifting I'm thinking.
I want to see video of you pitched sideways through the whole carousel turn.

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HA!!! Frickin awesome dude. high five...


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I want to see video of you pitched sideways through the whole carousel turn.
Only after I show you a picture of my underbritches first...


Ok, got a hold of some decent rain tires today. Bought some neato wheels for fast swaping.

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Was able to get on the track today to just poke around a little before tomorrow. Light snow and windy but tomorrow is supposed to clear up. Lots of Z06's and M3's this weekend. Just relaxing in the hotel before going out. We'll see what we can do tomorrow.

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Does it need hood locks?


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Ha, negative. A better question would be: Does any car from anywhere ever need hood locks for anything? Answer again is negative.

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Ok. We were keeping pace with Z06's and Cobra-R Mustangs with the Talon. THAT was impressive. Usually we had someone come up to us after a session asking what was done to it. There was a guy with a newer Corvette that the other driver just killed on the track with the Talon... as soon as we pulled in he wanted to know what we had. He was shocked when we popped the hood to show him his 400hp Vette was just chewed up and spit out by a 2.0L inline 4cylinder. !

A friend brought his Mitsubishi Evolution in near stock form:

Evo on left(actual car, just for reference):



FAST car and was keeping pace with just about everyone...

...everyone except a certain guy with certain raw talent that could only be attributed to complete retard strength... and had the opportunity to rip around in a tweaked 2002 Porsche 911 Twin-Turbo AWD(996)... OK, seriously, that car made me sick. That car pretty much read a book on Physics, laughed, and then went about ignoring all it read. Hitting 175 in the front straight wasn't an problem. The brakes were upgraded from the gigantic 911 Turbo brakes to enormous 15" rotor/6 piston caliper Brembo brakes in front and 13" rotor/4 piston calipers in the back. Touching the brakes was equal to hitting a brick wall while someone hits you with a baseball bat. This had much to do with the R-compound 335 wide tires. I'll just stop short by saying, amazing.

Here's the actual car I had a go in:



The owner(Al) has a website for their performance business in Chicago: http://www.gocpt.com/index.php If you're in to this sort of thing, check it out... lot's of cool stuff.

So the Talon put 136 HARD track miles. It never complained. I had a cool down lap at the end of each session where usually hit each corner like this: Start turning in corner off gas, turn out of corner slightly while punching the gas and cranking hard into the corner doing a 4 wheel power slide... Ha, I have some pictures of it from another photographer that was there. I'll definitely have to share that.


Only one accident in the day. A guy with a Mitsubishi Evo-MR(MR's have even better suspension/brakes than "standard" Evo's). He went through the kink in the back section(turn 11) and lifted through the corner(bad thing to do in a corner with any car, especially one that is AWD) and had the back end skip out and hit the grass. Those that know The Kink of Road America know that if you make a mistake, it's bye bye. The wall is 6 feet off the track. His car slammed the wall at about 110 mph and then spun around like a top hitting the wall a total of 3 times and high speed. The car is absolutely demolished(pictures will be up tomorrow).

Anyways, I could go on and on but I'll just summed up the rest by saying it was GREAT FUN.

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I envy you Rags!! I sooo wanted to run the Cobra on a road course but never got the chance.




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I envy you Rags!! I sooo wanted to run the Cobra on a road course but never got the chance.
Dude. You could at least ride with one of the Cobra guys. Next trackday, you're coming with.

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Sounds like you had a blast. In the snow, no less. Congrats!

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Sounds like you had a great time Ragdoll. I look forward to doing that someday. Looking forward to more pics and stories.

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IN THE KINK? The kink never ceased to scare the hell outta me on the bike... the trick was to never look at the wall!

Poor guy - cant wait for picks...

And isnt there a new turn not shown on that track layout after the Carousel? I thought they added it in before the Kink to slow you down a bit.,..

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Awwww POOPSTICKS, I forgot to load pictures onto The Internets last night. Tonight!

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And isnt there a new turn not shown on that track layout after the Carousel? I thought they added it in before the Kink to slow you down a bit.,..
That turn was added but is only used with bikes. When cars run they convert it back to the old way.

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I have watched thwe LMP1s-2s go through the Kink and I am pretty sure they are full throttle through it. It is really cool to see! I could imagine if the bikes did not have to go through the chicane before the Kink they would be reaching Canada Corner in the upper 100s even 200+.

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I have watched thwe LMP1s-2s go through the Kink and I am pretty sure they are full throttle through it. It is really cool to see! I could imagine if the bikes did not have to go through the chicane before the Kink they would be reaching Canada Corner in the upper 100s even 200+.
Yeah, and that would spell Death.

There was a new Mitsubishi Lance Evolution 10(X) there. It wasn't as fast as my friends Evo VIII but has an amazing drivetrain/suspension setup. ANYWAYS, he was coming out of the carousel wide open and never let off for the kink. My Evo friend was riding with him and said he holding on for dear life.

I, do not go full throttle through there with car OR bike... No thanks!

By the way, they are increasing the run-off on turn 8 quite a bit. It was one giant mud pit. They said that if someone goes off there it's 1 hour MINIMUM to get you out. So to slow people down they used some cones to make a small chicane as you go IN to turn 8. If anything I think it made it worse since it made you turn into the corner, then half way through turn toward the outside of the corner and then back in again. When I rode with the Porsche 996 driver he never really let up for it and I assumed a horrible crash every time.

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