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Hayden was battling a major chatter issue in Qatar and Austin, but fortunately they discovered the problem once qualifying had ended in Austin. The culprit was a cracked wheel. But now Hayden is battling with wrist pain.

The problem at Jerez are the tires, and especially the fronts. The hard tires brought to Jerez are too soft, is the near-unanimous complaint, leaving the soft fronts usable only on the first outing of the weekend on Friday morning, to be set aside after that.
This is going to be the main problem during the race, with tire wear likely to be a significant factor. Everyone can manage six or seven laps at full chat, but after that, the performance of the front will drop off.
The rider who nurses his tire home best will win the race, most parties believe, and on the evidence so far, that will be birthday boy Jorge Lorenzo. The factory Yamaha man treated himself to pole on his 26th birthday, and judging by his pace will be a tough nut to crack in the race.
Assistance – if you can call it that – will come from the rear tires, which are also a problem for the teams. But while opinions are united on the front tire, that the hard is too soft and a harder option should have been brought, the riders are divided on what to do on the rear.
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Lorenzo sure left the inside WIDE open in that last corner.
Yes, but the camera angle I saw indicated the turn was impossible for MM to make unless he used JL as a mobile berm, sorta like a motocross berm on two wheels.
I don't think pinballing off your competitor is a legit way to make a turn.
It was intentionall, even MM said out loud he's done it before, and everyone knows he has, and will again.
He needs a lesson.

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Agreed. I can't stand block passing in mx and don't see room for it in road racing.
If you run it that wide you had better be looking for someone to go inside of you. Square the turn off and gas it.
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I agree with mcromo...Marquez needs to be taught a lesson.
His comments after the race just proved the fact that it was
intentional and that he figured it was okay as long as Lorenzo
didn't crash. I think he's lucky it wasn't a faster corner, probably
would of taken both of them out. Everyone complained when
Simoncelli would ride aggressively, but don't say a word when
"golden boy" Marquez pulls the same stunts.

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Agree with previous in regard to Marquez, but a 4 time MotoGP champion, in his own country, should have better race-craft than to even put himself in that situation.

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Check out the vid. Looks like Jorge has had some "experience" in the same corner before...


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Check out the vid. Looks like Jorge has had some "experience" in the same corner before...


Soup :: Lorenzo at Jerez: Oddly Familiar :: 05-07-2013
So, sometimes what goes around takes a while to come back around....

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That karma boomerang can be a mother...

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He's just a big sook waving his girly finger around like he's an old school teacher suck it up and get over it I say leave the door open you will be robbed leave ya pants down you will be ------ ya get the story lol

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He's just a big sook waving his girly finger around like he's an old school teacher suck it up and get over it I say leave the door open you will be robbed leave ya pants down you will be ------ ya get the story lol
Fair point to a certain degree.
True others have done similar moves, Lorenzo himself.
BUT the others do not have a history of being serial pinballers - but MM does !
And he'll do it again.
Someone will get hurt.
I find the one time incidents much easier to pass off as "racing".
But not habitual pinballing.
If it was motocross, he'd be targeted for a strong lesson type torpedoing at the best time in the worst spot.

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Well if anything it makes it entertaining as everyone is talking about it and the promotors will be loving it better than one rider 20 seconds in front every race bring on the next round can't wait

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Well if anything it makes it entertaining as everyone is talking about it and the promotors will be loving it better than one rider 20 seconds in front every race bring on the next round can't wait
I think this year will be a very memorable one, and for good reasons.
Personally, I'll be elated if The Doctor does some more spanking.
I can see Rossi ending 3rd but Yamaha needs to improve the bike, they've run out of the chassis and controls margin they had before, which offset their weaker engine.
My year end prediction is Lorenzo/MM/Rossi and poor Dani 4th.

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Agree with previous in regard to Marquez, but a 4 time MotoGP champion, in his own country, should have better race-craft than to even put himself in that situation.
agreed he did leave himself open for some type of move

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Check out the vid. Looks like Jorge has had some "experience" in the same corner before...


Soup :: Lorenzo at Jerez: Oddly Familiar :: 05-07-2013
at the age that Jorge was in that vid I could see some last ditch maneuver
to get the win...but Marquez is far from a snot nose wet behind the ears
beginner and as mcromo states he is know for this type of riding. I don't
want to be a hater, but until he proves me wrong, that's my opinion.

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at the age that Jorge was in that vid I could see some last ditch maneuver
to get the win...but Marquez is far from a snot nose wet behind the ears
beginner and as mcromo states he is know for this type of riding. I don't
want to be a hater, but until he proves me wrong, that's my opinion.
Well put man. Even Simoncelli started riding clean before his accident. I hope the old guard can teach Marquez a thing or two.

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