World’s Fastest Production Electric Motorcycle - 2010 Mission One from Mission Motors
I have been always interested in electric powered motorcycles but never found one that tickled my fancy. I came across this one that really caught my interest and I thought I would share. Now only if I had about $70,000.00 I could buy one....
(quote from The Kneeslider.com)
Just unveiled at the TED2009 conference, the Mission One from Mission Motors, a hi-tech California startup company, building what is about to be the world’s fastest production electric motorcycle. How fast? 150 mph. Range? 150 miles. Torque? 100 foot pounds, instantly available whether you’re standing still or cruising at 60 mph, no gears, just roll it on … I think the game just changed.
and therein lay the problem. $70,000.00 per bike cannot be scaled so it will not change the world; rather it will disappear into obscurity as a hope that couldn't be sustained.
I might buy one if it were $2,000. My problem is that 150 miles isn't that far. Every weekend that I go out riding, I'll put in close to 200 miles of pretty hard riding. My guess is the 150 mile range is based on running 35 - 45 MPH on straight roads with little changes in throttle input. What do you think it would last on twisty backroads? 90 miles max? I appreciate their efforts, but I can't see it going very far. There will eventually be an advance in batter/electric motor technology that will result in more efficiencies, less, weight, longer battery life, etc. Until then, I'll just keep my fossil fuel burning machine.
Just an example...
$4,000 for an average 919
$9.00 per tank of fuel
145 miles per tank of hard riding - my average
$70,000 - 4,000 = $66,000 left for fuel.
$66,000 / 9 = 7333.33 tanks of gas
7333.33 * 145 = 7,797,774,233.33 miles.
one general question about electric vehicles. if they put out 100 percent of their available torque when the accelerator is applied, how does one NOT spin the tires in inclement weather ?
one general question about electric vehicles. if they put out 100 percent of their available torque when the accelerator is applied, how does one NOT spin the tires in inclement weather ?
they can put out up to 100% of their available torque ...
I might buy one if it were $2,000. My problem is that 150 miles isn't that far. Every weekend that I go out riding, I'll put in close to 200 miles of pretty hard riding. My guess is the 150 mile range is based on running 35 - 45 MPH on straight roads with little changes in throttle input. What do you think it would last on twisty backroads? 90 miles max? I appreciate their efforts, but I can't see it going very far. There will eventually be an advance in batter/electric motor technology that will result in more efficiencies, less, weight, longer battery life, etc. Until then, I'll just keep my fossil fuel burning machine.
Just an example...
$4,000 for an average 919
$9.00 per tank of fuel
145 miles per tank of hard riding - my average
$70,000 - 4,000 = $66,000 left for fuel.
$66,000 / 9 = 7333.33 tanks of gas
7333.33 * 145 = 7,797,774,233.33 miles.
919 = more smiles (and miles) per dollar.
You forgot to add in the electric cost for charging it off the grid and the probably 5k+ price tag for replacing the batteries in 3-5 years.
For a bike that expensive and with that much torque output, they could have done a better job of designing it.
That swingarm will flex like jello in any power applied turns or leans. Heck! It will probably flex in straight line accelerations.
Though everyone's response about how stupidly expensive it is and all.... it is the start of something different. There was a time that driving was a novelty. There was even a time that riding a motorbike was seen as a stupid novelty for the wealthy. As time progresses and costs come down...... things might improve.
Today, most of us have cell phones - look at the history or progression of that technology. Remember when we thought having a pager was the coolest thing?
For a bike that expensive and with that much torque output, they could have done a better job of designing it.
That swingarm will flex like jello in any power applied turns or leans. Heck! It will probably flex in straight line accelerations.
Though everyone's response about how stupidly expensive it is and all.... it is the start of something different. There was a time that driving was a novelty. There was even a time that riding a motorbike was seen as a stupid novelty for the wealthy. As time progresses and costs come down...... things might improve.
Today, most of us have cell phones - look at the history or progression of that technology. Remember when we thought having a pager was the coolest thing?
150 miles with lights on or off.dont ride at night so you need high beams you get 50 miles then.
i dont see a problem with having a onboard charging system. a little generator run off the chain. anybody that can design a bike that looks as bad as that should be able to build in a charging system. it does not even need to be all that good, just enough to get you to be able to ride 300 miles with out needing a charge.
i dont see a problem with having a onboard charging system. a little generator run off the chain. anybody that can design a bike that looks as bad as that should be able to build in a charging system. it does not even need to be all that good, just enough to get you to be able to ride 300 miles with out needing a charge.
That would work just fine, except for those pesky laws of physics. Conservation of energy, and all that - if you suck some of the energy out to run a generator, you don't have it available for motion, so you have to pay more to achieve the same velocity. And since your generator isn't 100% efficient, you lose a little more on top of that.
What you *can* do is what they do on hybrid cars - essentially using generators for brakes, so the energy you bleed off stopping goes back into the batteries rather than get thrown away as heat.
There are two problems with that idea:
* I doubt you can make such brake assemblies small enough to fit on a bike in any normal manner.
* Bikes probably lose more of their momentum to air resistance than they do to brakes, so the energy you get back from the brakes wouldn't be enough to get a significant savings. The whole thing wouldn't be worth it.
I've seen it in the side shot only. The extra pics really show it off. I could dig the 150 mile range alright if it were radically cheaper. That is the problem. It looks to have top notch accutraments. Very nice. But the batterys and motor for that bad boy are really no doubt state of the art to give it that much power and that much range at the same time. I'm guessing that there is very nice engineering under the plastic. I'd love to peruse it.
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true running a generator would suck power out of the bike but IMO these bikes are not built to be race bikes but greenier bikes so a lose in power would be worth going a little further and not needing to plug it in so much.
true running a generator would suck power out of the bike but IMO these bikes are not built to be race bikes but greenier bikes so a lose in power would be worth going a little further and not needing to plug it in so much.
You're misunderstanding. I'm saying you can't get power that way at all. You'd be draining the battery of power to get 70% (a guess at the efficiency of the generator) of that power back into the battery; that is, you save 30% by leaving it in the battery in the first place. Putting a generator on the drive train or on the wheels like you suggest has to reduce your range.
But yes, you can achieve what you're suggesting by limiting the power output. The easiest way to do that is to limit top velocity. I just think they've got enough consumer resistance to selling a $70K electric bike without locking it down to 60mph. I mean, there's lots cheaper electric scooters on the market, and you're not going to get any sort of polite write-up in the cycle magazines unless you can pull off at least 120. I guarantee that you won't get 150 miles out of the thing at their claimed 150mph.
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you get 50 miles then.
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