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Originally Posted by Rob919
There's no way I'm gonna fit the Brutale headlight on my bike, without having a custom triple made.
Anyone know any machine shops that can fab one up for me?
Any shop with a CNC mill can do it -- as long as you hand them a complete, ready to go CAD file with no glitches or questions. Oh, and they'll charge a setup fee proportional to the number of tool paths (roughing and finishing), setup changes, fixtures, man hours spent making a tool to make a tool to make a fixture ... you get the idea. Not bad if you are making 10,000 of them as they can amortize (that's accountantspeak for "hide") the setup charge by dividing it by the number of units. I needed 2 simple clamps, went to an NC machine shop and got a quote of $575. Of course if I wanted 1,000 they would have cost $17.29 each.
The question you need to ask is "Is it worth a grand to have a trick looking headlight?" If so, go for it.
Past that I can't be of much help. Oh, I can design it for you and send it to a stereolithography / prototyping shop in San Diego that promises fast turnaround, but they would need a finalized .stl design file to work from (which I can generate) to estimate the job.
Let me know what you think.
Rob
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Rob, can you show us photos of the Brutale light, or at least the mounting points? There must be a reasonable way to make some mounting brackets. Having custom triples made to fit the headlight is by far the most expensive option... although custom triples might look pretty trick!!!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob919
There's no way I'm gonna fit the Brutale headlight on my bike, without having a custom triple made.
Anyone know any machine shops that can fab one up for me?
Okay, now I get it. Looked up the Brutale and saw the headlight mounts on standard ears -- at least from the pictures I could find.
The point is you want the triple in order to make the headlight look sufficiently trick, not need it to mount it up. It all makes sense now. That'll cost you $1263.92, with delivery in about a week. Send me a deposit of at least 50% and I'll get going on it. Of course you'll also need USD forks to complete the look. No sweat. I've already got the design down.
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Okay, now I get it. Looked up the Brutale and saw the headlight mounts on standard ears -- at least from the pictures I could find.
The point is you want the triple in order to make the headlight look sufficiently trick, not need it to mount it up. It all makes sense now. That'll cost you $1263.92, with delivery in about a week. Send me a deposit of at least 50% and I'll get going on it. Of course you'll also need USD forks to complete the look. No sweat. I've already got the design down.
Rob
Yeah, it's more a want than a need thing. I'll need to relocate the ignition switch to make room for the top rear of the headlight; otherwise, it'll look stupid sticking out so far. So basicly I'll need a triple with a concave shaped front.
I was thinking about cutting the ignition housing off the front of the stocker, but not so sure if that's a good idea (structurally).
After looking at those photos it's making more sense - the headlight needs to be moved back and down, and the gauges need to be moved forward and down... A LOT!
Do it cruiser style and put the ignition down by the airbox on the side of the bike, then cut off the mounts for the ignition switch. Is there enough wiring to relocate the ignition switch?
After looking at those photos it's making more sense - the headlight needs to be moved back and down, and the gauges need to be moved forward and down... A LOT!
Do it cruiser style and put the ignition down by the airbox on the side of the bike, then cut off the mounts for the ignition switch. Is there enough wiring to relocate the ignition switch?
Yeah, I'm gonna try cutting it off first. I'm just worried about the strength of the triple, once I do so.
I think I may buy another ignition switch (I know they make them for custom bikes, but not sure where to find them), because the stock one is huge, and I have no idea why? There's not enough wiring to get it by the airbox, but if I can find a small enough ignition assembly, I can mount it to the frame, or right behind the headset. Or maybe I just have someone set up a remote start system, with a key fob, like they do on some alarm systems... (or better yet, an alarm system with remote start option).
Or maybe I just have someone set up a remote start system, with a key fob, like they do on some alarm systems... (or better yet, an alarm system with remote start option).
Now you're talking! Make it completely custom, and clean up the look of the upper triple at the same time!
Rob919, looking at your mock up picture the headlight seems a little on the high side as well. If you lowered it so the top of the headlight is under the upper triple will it recess back further?
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Rob919, looking at your mock up picture the headlight seems a little on the high side as well. If you lowered it so the top of the headlight is under the upper triple will it recess back further?
That's where I'd like it to be, ideally. It's a big, tall headlight! I didn't realize it was that tall.
I can fit it just below the "ring" of the ignition housing, but I am worried the bottom will be too close to the top of the front fender. It would be about 4" from the bottom of the light, to the top of the fender. When I brake, and the forks compress, I fear the headlight will slam into the fender.
I wish I could take a zip tie around the forks, take her for a spin, and hit the brakes hard, to find out how much the forks compress, but alas I cannot since she's in the state she's in.
Anyone want to try it on their bikes for me? Please?!
Looking at these mock-ups, the bottom of the headlight is exactly 4" above the top of the fender (when traveling inline with the forks). The distance between the bottom of the lower triple, and the top of the fork seals, is 4-1/2". So if I can shave off approximately 3/4"-1" off the ignition housing portion of the triple, then I can move the headlight up that extra inch or so.
How about notching the headlight, is that at all feasible?
Rich
It's possible, I think, but I really don't think it's neccessary. Besides, I'd rather cut up the ignition housing on the triple, than cut up a $600 headlight!!
Any shop with a CNC mill can do it -- as long as you hand them a complete, ready to go CAD file with no glitches or questions. Oh, and they'll charge a setup fee proportional to the number of tool paths (roughing and finishing), setup changes, fixtures, man hours spent making a tool to make a tool to make a fixture ... you get the idea. Not bad if you are making 10,000 of them as they can amortize (that's accountantspeak for "hide") the setup charge by dividing it by the number of units. I needed 2 simple clamps, went to an NC machine shop and got a quote of $575. Of course if I wanted 1,000 they would have cost $17.29 each.
The question you need to ask is "Is it worth a grand to have a trick looking headlight?" If so, go for it.
Past that I can't be of much help. Oh, I can design it for you and send it to a stereolithography / prototyping shop in San Diego that promises fast turnaround, but they would need a finalized .stl design file to work from (which I can generate) to estimate the job.
Let me know what you think.
Rob
P.S.: There, I fixed it for you.
Rob,
I've been thinking about this. When it comes time for me to do the USD fork swap, I would appreciate your help in designing it. This ain't gonna happen for at least another 6 months, though. But sooner or later, I will get it done.
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