Is anyone in the market for some riding boots? We are about to prototype some riding boots and are working with a factory right now. We are about to look at some prototypes and I just wondered if anyone was looking for decent boots.
These are NOT going to be in the class of SIDI boots, but they will he high end boots. We order samples / prototypes, we can usually get away with throwing in a few extra pairs for "testing".
In case anyone wanted good boots for around $100, I just thought I would ask.
These boots are in the genre of Street / Race boots.
I'm looking for some good street/touring boots. Tried on some Forma boots at MotoGP and loved the Street EVO model, should have bought them there but didn't want to carry them around the track. Now I can't find them online, the Forma website doesn't seem to have an order function.
I'm somewhat interested, looking for boots to wear for supermoto. I would prefer the style that the whole sole can be replaced but would be interested as long as the piece on the outside of the foot by the toes could be replaced when worn down. let me know if replaceable wear pieces are a possibility and I'm interested for sure.
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Still too early to tell. I like the specs we came up with and the prototypes they have shown me. However, I want the first prototype in hand before I make that call.
The prototypes have all the bells and whistles needed in a good boot, but not the Uber-Exotic stuff like an internal C/F boot, etc. That would put their price bracket in the higher $200's to $300's.
They will be good boots, and will offer optimum protection otherwise we won't bother with it.
I'm somewhat interested, looking for boots to wear for supermoto. I would prefer the style that the whole sole can be replaced but would be interested as long as the piece on the outside of the foot by the toes could be replaced when worn down. let me know if replaceable wear pieces are a possibility and I'm interested for sure.
As far as I know, the outter toe slider is replaceable.
They will be good boots, and will offer optimum protection otherwise we won't bother with it.
Oh I know you wouldn't put anything out that wouldn't meet outstanding quality/price point just looking for a little more info....you need a boot model this time?
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Are you looking at the same factory that make boots for Heine Gerrike and Frank Thomas in Europe?
Don't know that factory. Do you have any details?
You know, at times like this I feel bad for the Daineses and SIDI's of the world. They were pioneers in this field and spawned so many clones - kinda like IBM, etc. However, the clone market bring more competitive products to consumers. So, take the good with the evil I suppose. Anyway, what the clone market has created is a great number of look-alike boots on the market where you will see copies of SIDI's heel design or Alpinestar's SMX calf designs. This makes most boots look almost the same. But.. there are differences.
The FT boots look familiar and I know where those boots actually come from. They can be found with many different manufacturer's touches or labels on them from a varying number of sources.
While I won't knock my competition - I will say I am happy we are not sourcing from the same factory. We actually had a prototype of the FT boots right now that we are examining - but will unlikely pick them. In testing these boots, we found that the lateral support allowed too much movement as it is made from TPU plastic which can flex. Flexion here can lead to breaking the ankle in a violent accident. The better way would be to use either Carbon Fibre - ala Dainese / Alpinestars, or to use Titanium. However, the price of the boots would jump significantly. Now, you can argue that SIDI uses TPU type plastic on some of their boots - this is true, but remember the prior model actually had a pretty solid Titanium ankle / calf support. The new Diablo's have TPU type plastic for the ankle / calf support, but have you seen the thickness ?!?! You can't bend it. That makes a significant difference. Admittedly, some of the price includes the name and marketing - but there you go.
The question then is do you want to compete with SIDI or Alpinestars? Or just make a good enough boot with your name on it? When you consider the number of Boots available on the market, it can be a tough call. Even the FORMA boots look like pretty superior boots - but I don't know their price range yet. Does anyone know who carries them? I am curios to find out how much they are.
Attached is a picture of one of the potential prototypes. This would be a mid-level boot to us. The ankle support is Titanium, which limits rotation of the ankle in the event of an accident.
A local guy started a MC clothing/accessories and he just brought in these boots from a contract manuf. I am not sure if he would disclose the info but you can try contacting him.
A local guy started a MC clothing/accessories and he just brought in these boots from a contract manuf. I am not sure if he would disclose the info but you can try contacting him.
Hmmm.... interesting times for sure. There are like a million and one places where you can source mc gear. Again, like I always say - I respect those that go out and do r&d and come up with unique features and the like. Sadly, once you release something new, it becomes the next great thing to be cloned. Good or bad, Veloce has already been copied on the market by another brand. I sometimes wonder if it is worth staying in this business? (CBRXX can insert comment here).......
I know where all the stuff comes from at RSD. I don't know if it is fair or useful though to state that they get the same boots from the same manufacturer as Hein Gericke and Frank Thomas. Anyway... thanks for the heads up and information Farmerjoe.
I would be interested. Especially that white/black color scheme you show. My leathers are white/black, so it would look good. Currently (I say that like I have done it more than once...haha, but I am all ready to schedule the next one....just trying to decide on Oct 28 or Nov 7) I am using my Sidi Strada boots on the track and would like to have a more track oriented boot, instead of street oriented.
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I would be interested. Especially that white/black color scheme you show. My leathers are white/black, so it would look good. Currently (I say that like I have done it more than once...haha, but I am all ready to schedule the next one....just trying to decide on Oct 28 or Nov 7) I am using my Sidi Strada boots on the track and would like to have a more track oriented boot, instead of street oriented.
OMG!!! A new track addict is born!!!! Hmm... let me see the first prototype and I might start taking names and sizes down.
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you know half of these guys want you to make a high heeled leather version so they can wear them with a skirt...
That's okay Barton, we know you are talking about yourself and RC90. We know.
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I definatly need some good boots, mine just don't cut it any more, They feel too loose and flexi. I'd be looking for a 43 OR 44, for 100 bucks its well worth it.
Okay guys... We will keep looking into this item. We are about to test the first sample. I will give you my most brutal reviews once we get them.
This is something that we will not have direct design input in when we first start out, so we have to be pretty hard on the reviews to make sure they are up to scratch.
I will keep you all posted. Thanks for always been a valuable test bed by the way.
Okay.. work is still on-going. We think we are sure of sizes 37 - 48 Euro at the moment. Width is pretty standard - according to European sizing. So, that means width will be similar to Dainese and Alpinestars.
By the way, here is a composite sketch of a possible boot:
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OMG!!! A new track addict is born!!!! Hmm... let me see the first prototype and I might start taking names and sizes down.
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