we need a place to stockpile maps for sharing.

[mcromo44]

Originally Posted by Lord Duckhunter

Just yours... This is why I don't go to much effort when it comes to 919 guys anymore. Most seem to have a tendency to overcomplicate things to the point that it no longer makes sense to work on the task at hand or they don't follow through on the simplest things.

I tell you what though if we were compiling pictures of aftermarket clocks and how they fit on the handlebars you couldn't buy enough web space to hold all the damn pictures they would send in...

I gotta laugh.
I know I am in your "too complicated book" BUT I do follow through and there's no bling on my bike ! And speaking of clocks, my 919 has one in the OEM instrument cluster !

[LDH]

Yer not that complicated and I know your motivation so it's easy to get where you are coming from.

[mcromo44]

Originally Posted by Lord Duckhunter

Yer not that complicated and I know your motivation so it's easy to get where you are coming from.

Got a question for you.
Re old PC3s of the serial port era.
The .map format maps are only in 500 RPM steps, right ?

Only the later .djm format maps have the 250 RPM steps, and even then you have set your software to show them, this much I know as a for sure.

Some time ago, I did a .map to .djm conversion with the software, then did the 250 RPM step display.
The strange part was that the 250 RPM steps in the djm. map display were populated, but not with the same map input numbers as the .map map showed at its 500 RPM steps.

Can you shed some light on this?

It's not just idle thought on my part. I'm helping rickard with his old serial port PC3, so am presently immersed in early PC software and map files.

Thanks for whatever advice you can pass on.

[LDH]

I'd have to run the simulation to be certain, but typically speaking when it comes to Powercommander software whenever a value is split into a new field the average of the field on either side is taken & used.

[g00gl3it]

Originally Posted by marylandmike

It's about time someone offered to do that

Sweet shots!!! Throw those in the dropbox folder, would ya!!!



.....kidding.

And LDH, the dropbox is more like a back end repository (not suppository). Think of it as your web root folder for files, but more secure for hosting and managing files. Version history, redundancy, instant synchronization, yadda yadda. Much easier to handle than something under inetpub, lol.

[mcromo44]

Originally Posted by Lord Duckhunter

I'd have to run the simulation to be certain, but typically speaking when it comes to Powercommander software whenever a value is split into a new field the average of the field on either side is taken & used.

LDH, thanks for this info.

I just did a quick check against your Mori v4 map as converted from .map to .djm
Here's what I now see :
The 250 RPM steps are nominally incremented as averages between a pair of respective 500 RPM steps.
Where a simple whole number results, an exact average appears.
Where an average number with a decimal results mathmaticly, the map value is rounded off to a simple whole number.
(Realized is that the maps have to be in simple whole numbers.)
The rounded off simple whole number looks to be a rounding up in every case.
I've just checked about 10 + and - 250 RPM examples, and every one has been rounded up.

So, in short, we can now safely state :
Early .map format maps have the RPM co-ordinates in 500 RPM steps.
Later, and still current, djm. format maps have the RPM co-ordinates in 250 RPM steps but initially display them with only the 500 RPM steps until the operator instructs the software to display a 250 RPM stepped map.
The PC software can convert a .map format map to a .djm format map.
When this happens, the software will automatically populate the 250 RPM step map co-ordinates with an average of the 500 RPM map values on either side of the 250 RPM co-ordinate value being detemined by the software.
If the resultant average value has a decimal place in it, the software will round that number UP to the next simple whole number.

If anyone wants to dig deeper by checking a larger population of examples from a .map converted to .djm and showing the 250 RPM steps, feel free to do so.

[rykros]

Im likin the dropbox.. tried the maps.. the pvester erion map werks wonderful for me.. currently arrow ti pipes, dna air filter, 17/44 blackbird sprox, ngk irdium plugs... Temperate climate n humid...

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[mambomonster]

I downloaded the maps and appreciate you guys putting them there. Having said that, they are useless without some kind of description as someone like me who wants to try different ones has no idea where to start.

What's a "mw919mori4" or a "919_erion dalair usa wristwisters" map? Moriwaki slip-ons? Erion slip-ons?

Maybe a naming convention along the lines of:

Year_919_Exhaust type_PAIRYesPairNO_Elevation_Date

Example:

2006_919_SatoSlipOns_PAIRNO_2000MSL_31-7-2011

[Pvster]

if you open them in the pcIII a lot of them have notes as well that tells you what has what. some has no notes, but worth looking into anyways.

[07919Dave]

Originally Posted by mambomonster

I downloaded the maps and appreciate you guys putting them there. Having said that, they are useless without some kind of description as someone like me who wants to try different ones has no idea where to start.

What's a "mw919mori4" or a "919_erion dalair usa wristwisters" map? Moriwaki slip-ons? Erion slip-ons?

Maybe a naming convention along the lines of:

Year_919_Exhaust type_PAIRYesPairNO_Elevation_Date

Example:

2006_919_SatoSlipOns_PAIRNO_2000MSL_31-7-2011

That would be an excellent way to name them. I know if I ever get a PCIII I would want to know the MSL as I live at 6700ft and play at 9000ft. Also alot of us have bought some Delkevics here so it would be great for us to know right where to spot maps made for us.

[Ottawa919]

You can also do a search for the map name and you will most likely find posts where people provide information, results, etc.

[mcromo44]

Originally Posted by mambomonster

I downloaded the maps and appreciate you guys putting them there. Having said that, they are useless without some kind of description as someone like me who wants to try different ones has no idea where to start.

What's a "mw919mori4" map? Moriwaki slip-ons?

The above map is LDH's final (#4) version of his Moriwaki slipons based map development. He did it in his Louisiana days, so it was at sea level and likely high humidity as well.
It is a definitive map in my opinion, for good slipons that is, and general use.

Always look at the Notes section below the Map Table, typically there is good insight and/or commentary there.

We'll never get everyone to name the maps the same way, as good an idea as it is.
I think we are better relying on the Notes info.

[g00gl3it]

It seems the PCIII maps were deleted. I restored them from a backup...

[07919Dave]

We lost thenameing scheme when they where deleted. I cant find the exact one i was using. But when I take the bike to Dyno the one that is in there will be the jumping off point as it it pretty good right now. I just want it tailor made for my bike and altitude.

[g00gl3it]

FYI, here is a link to a zip file of ALL that we currently have in the Dropbox folder. This should appease most folks that want the files, but don't necessarily need access (as they won't be adding more content).

Let me know if it doesn't work, I can fix it. And this file is shared outside of the shared folder, so it won't affect the size of the shared folder for other participants.

https://dl.dropbox.com/s/7r3kmipub8j...-2-12.zip?dl=1

[andrewebay1]

SWEEEEET! Got it downloaded