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post #1 of 30 Old 03-24-2012, 05:28 AM Thread Starter
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Bad wheel bearing picture

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I Have replaced my 2 rear wheel bearing , i had an issue with the right hand one( brake side) . I opened the bearing seal and found it pretty worn and the grease is just very bad . I think water went in it .
The picture with both bearing show the left hand side bearing who is in good shape and the right hand one is really bad.
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post #2 of 30 Old 03-24-2012, 05:35 AM
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Looks very familiar

My right side bearing at 37K miles



Something just didn't feel right

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mine had just 14000km
it is pretty soon for a bearing to be worn like that

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Definitely looks like water damage - the rust inside the bearing looks much like the bearings I used to pull from Italian cars.

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mine had just 14000km
it is pretty soon for a bearing to be worn like that
Yeah that seems a bit to soon. 8700mi and a bearing goes out sounds like a defect. Replace with a high quality brand and ride on!

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I ve replaced them with all balls bearing they seem s good so far

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Looks very familiar

My right side bearing at 37K miles



Something just didn't feel right
Classic, Mike. Just classic!!!!!

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post #9 of 30 Old 03-24-2012, 08:56 AM
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out of curiosity, what is the consensus on the best wheel bearings to order?

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I think most people prefer All Balls
ya i dont roll that way.... i prefer all pink tacos.


haha, naw i have used all balls bearings before they are good stuff.

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Chinese made, though - I'd rather avoid those in critical high speed bearings.

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Anyone think they're better than OEM?

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Mikes 919 only had bearing failure due to playing with my Gsx-r. . I kid I kid.
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Man - just soak them in some Rotella - apparently that stuff is the jizz! (OK just joking).


Never ues one of those high pressure water blasters around your bike - they are the best way to get water where you don't want it.

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Anyone think they're better than OEM?
no. OEM is the way to go. All All ball made in China. They are good bearings but quality control is nowhere near OEM as you can imagine with mass produced stuff in China. All Balls just buy bulk bearings and package them as ABB. Nothing special about All Balls except catchy name.

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How many miles on your Hornet?
with this rust damage, better question is how old is this bike and how was it stored from its birth to present day.
I have a feeling this bike spent a lot of time outside. Heat/cold: condensation and moisture did its job. On average, 0.002% water in the lubricant can reduce bearing life by 48%. Six percent water can reduce bearing life by 83% percent.
Sealed bearing will not prevent moisture/condensation. Sealed bearing designed only to keep grease from coming out.

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Mikes 919 only had bearing failure due to playing with my Gsx-r. . I kid I kid.
It's the best explanation so far

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if ya repack before they look like that they last alot longer

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For that matter, is there any way to convert to taper roller?

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For that matter, is there any way to convert to taper roller?

no no no no. Don't even think about it for wheel bearings. Are you crazy?

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To answer your question ZAQ123, I bought the bike last summer ans i noticed the bearing sideplay 2 month later , I know that i the third owner. But for sure their was a lack of maintenance. Or maybe one of the previous owner ride the bike a lot in rain and with the heat of the brake maybee it didn't help for condensation. Or the bike was pressure-washed behind the disc brake to removed all the dirt and brake dust wich is not a good idea do to that.

Bearing seal seem perfectly installed and good.

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with this rust damage, better question is how old is this bike and how was it stored from its birth to present day.
Or perhaps somebody got carried away with a pressure washer? Probably more likely/common with an off-road bike/quad, but god only knows...

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I'm starting to think the pressure washer may have contributed to my bearing failure. There definitely wasn't that much grease in there. I used a pressure washer once or twice and I'm sure I hit that area.

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no no no no. Don't even think about it for wheel bearings. Are you crazy?
Only as crazy as 99+% of car manufacturers. Most cars use taper roller bearings for their wheel bearings.

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Only as crazy as 99+% of car manufacturers. Most cars use taper roller bearings for their wheel bearings.
Tapered bearings can't handle misalignment as we as ball bearing do. OEM DAC type bearings are good stuff. I'm running one in my Satos. Had to adjust PCIII to 248.6 degrees for TPS Flux vector drive though with this setup

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Tapered bearings can't handle misalignment as we as ball bearing do. OEM DAC type bearings are good stuff. I'm running one in my Satos. Had to adjust PCIII to 248.6 degrees for TPS Flux vector drive though with this setup

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Simply put, the loads upon the bearings are such that tapered rollers are not needed.
Unlike a car.

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