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Old 10-24-2008, 09:45 AM   #1
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you can see that instead of leaning into the turn which would have save him more than likely, he was moving his body up over the bike.

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Old 10-24-2008, 09:48 AM   #3
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Also... stay in your footwear. Please try to wear riding boots out there!
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Old 10-24-2008, 09:50 AM   #4
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you can see that instead of leaning into the turn which would have save him more than likely, he was moving his body up over the bike.
Hmmm.... not sure that was the case. From where this sequence picks up, it looks like he was just at the impact point and that sudden contact with a the truck would cause his body to move up and to the left. I forget what the actual physics terms are (hangover), but the mass is still in motion after a sudden stop .... or something like that.
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Why do shoes always explode off feet? I find that aspect of it comical every time. Atleast he was getting up at the end already.

Poor side mirror.
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Getting up, or still rolling?
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Old 10-24-2008, 10:07 AM   #7
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Hmmm.... not sure that was the case. From where this sequence picks up, it looks like he was just at the impact point and that sudden contact with a the truck would cause his body to move up and to the left. I forget what the actual physics terms are (hangover), but the mass is still in motion after a sudden stop .... or something like that.
True, hard to tell with the rest of the footage missing as to what really happened. Almost seems staged, since the driver of the truck took no evasive action?
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Judging by the impact it doesn't seem that either vehicle was traveling at a high rate of speed, the bike itself hardly moves past the impact point. He should have easily had wayyyy more lean than that at time of impact unless he target fixated, panicked and stood the bike upright right before the impact.
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Old 10-24-2008, 10:18 AM   #9
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Thats some awesome footage...
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Old 10-24-2008, 10:19 AM   #10
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True, hard to tell with the rest of the footage missing as to what really happened. Almost seems staged, since the driver of the truck took no evasive action?

It probally just happened too fast for the driver to react - If I were betting, squid got over in the turn with too much speed, hammered the front brakes , instead of just leaning over more , and pushed himself right into the truck -
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Looks like it may be the gixxer 750 I just sold.
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Old 10-24-2008, 11:15 AM   #12
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Boy is that painful to watch. And it keeps repeating and repeating and...
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Old 10-24-2008, 03:39 PM   #13
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Hmmm.... not sure that was the case. From where this sequence picks up, it looks like he was just at the impact point and that sudden contact with a the truck would cause his body to move up and to the left. I forget what the actual physics terms are (hangover), but the mass is still in motion after a sudden stop .... or something like that.

I believe the word your looking for is inertia
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Old 10-24-2008, 03:39 PM   #14
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Also... stay in your footwear. Please try to wear riding boots out there!
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Ripper, the only evasive action for the suv would be to swerve right and slam into a tree?
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Old 10-24-2008, 03:48 PM   #15
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Old 10-24-2008, 04:17 PM   #16
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Notice the rider out in front? Good bet this guy was trying too hard to keep up. So the thread title is fitting -- ride within your abilities.
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Old 10-24-2008, 04:22 PM   #17
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I just looked again, is that the driver's window shattering on impact?
Hope the driver didn't get any glass in his eyes.
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Old 10-24-2008, 04:33 PM   #18
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True, hard to tell with the rest of the footage missing as to what really happened. Almost seems staged, since the driver of the truck took no evasive action?
The tag on the front of the Jimmy looks like one from one of the Jacky Jones auto retailers local to SW NC and SE TN. The shot looks to be taken over on Deals Gap. If it was on the Gap; the only option the driver had was:
1. Run over the camera man and his vehicle occupying the turn.
2. Drop off the shoulder of the road which is steep enough to roll the Jimmy several times before coming to a stop.

Up there, aside from driving within your abilities there's often no evasive action that can be taken without placing yourself in greater harm; in cage or bike.
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damn that hurts just watching it... again and again and again
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Old 10-24-2008, 06:07 PM   #20
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The tag on the front of the Jimmy looks like one from one of the Jacky Jones auto retailers local to SW NC and SE TN. The shot looks to be taken over on Deals Gap. If it was on the Gap; the only option the driver had was:
1. Run over the camera man and his vehicle occupying the turn.
2. Drop off the shoulder of the road which is steep enough to roll the Jimmy several times before coming to a stop.

Up there, aside from driving within your abilities there's often no evasive action that can be taken without placing yourself in greater harm; in cage or bike.
That's where it was "Deals Gap". I forgot to put that in the first post. Good eye!
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I'm pretty sure the rider is fine... (not life threatening,) from the Sporadic footage. No long bones appear broken, he rolled with it pretty well...
Looks like a good NFL hit!!! The Suz/ is another matter. Good thing he was wearing something.
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Appears the camera person knew where to set-up !
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The noob probably fixated on the camera person and/or vehicle and forgot to turn.
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Old 10-25-2008, 05:21 AM   #24
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I like it when the window just explodes and the shoe disappears.
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Old 10-25-2008, 09:51 AM   #25
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Todays lesson, stay off the center line. less chance of dying.
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looks like to much speed and target fixation, very possibly a noob!
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looks like to much speed and target fixation, very possibly a noob!
Target fixation yes, but too much speed...doesn't look like it from the images. The bike pretty much fell over after the impact.
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Old 10-25-2008, 10:28 PM   #28
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I tell you , this was just about the WORST thing for me to see last night. I went for a ride on some fairly twisty roads this afternoon and all I could think about was this repeating scene. I got over it, but dang, you took some of the fun out of my ride. (but, at least I didn't outride my abilities)
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WOW cant believe that some one would cross that scary scary double yellow in a blind turn...oh well hope he had insurance... and there was no evasive action for the cage to take
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Old 10-29-2008, 11:20 AM   #30
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Yeah i have to agree this is appears to be a target fixation issue. whether fixating on the outside of the corner or the truck both would run you wide and potentially encourage you to brake too much and stand it up.
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Old 10-29-2008, 11:49 AM   #31
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Dude was in way too hot...that's all.

Riding on roads like this, Deal's Gap in particular, you aren't even safe in your own lane. You gotta ride the center---even a bit off center--just to protect yourself...and have an exit strategy at all times.

Bottom line......back the f*ck off and maybe you won't live in infamy on the internet.

Maybe you'll just live!
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Did you guys catch the second photo of this guy? Busted faceshield, scuffed up jacket, new shoes, on the wrong side of the road!

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Old 10-29-2008, 12:42 PM   #34
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I just want to know this...if you have that little amount of lean in a corner (2nd photo) then why does he feel like he's going so fast he needs to cut to the far left side of the road in the left-hand corner? Oh...by the way...nice stiff arms.
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I bet

From watching youtube disasters, I would say the camera was set up in that curve to see some pegs dragging.
Most times you can hear their buddies laughing out loud and then the famous words, " Hey dude, you ok?"

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