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Old 12-29-2007, 05:35 AM   #1
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And so begins the transformation

I weighed her yesterday bone stock (minus the left side passenger peg) full of fuel at a scant 430 lbs. I will begin removing all likenesses of street form, safety wiring and modifying until my fingers hurt.

We can make her better, we have the technology.....

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Most of the stuff is here. I will need to source a front triple tree stand so as to remove the forks and ship them off to be gutted. The Ohlins rear needs a new spring for my weight and more to come.


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Old 12-29-2007, 05:42 AM   #2
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James; who is going to rework the forks?

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Old 12-29-2007, 05:47 AM   #3
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It's a local company called Cogent Dynamics.
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How light do you think you can get her?
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Old 12-29-2007, 06:02 PM   #5
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My hopes is to shave 15-20 pounds once everything is exchanged.
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How can you leave all those goodies in their boxes?
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I think I will be in Raleigh this weekend, so I will bring it if i remember. Then you just have to make the 1 hour drive to get it.
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Great project, I can't wait to see the next pictures.
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Old 12-30-2007, 08:20 AM   #10
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How can you leave all those goodies in their boxes?
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I think I will be in Raleigh this weekend, so I will bring it if i remember. Then you just have to make the 1 hour drive to get it.
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Great project, I can't wait to see the next pictures.
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Old 12-30-2007, 08:19 PM   #11
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WooHoo! She is now officially 25.4 pounds lighter than yesterday. Many thanks to Tarheelguy for his help and advice on removing bits-n-pieces. If all my weights and calculations are correct, The SV is down to 404.6 pounds fully fueled and race-ready.
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Old 12-30-2007, 08:28 PM   #12
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more pics... and lets get it down to 390!
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Great job, but you're so close to the three hundreds. Can't you find 4.7lbs somewhere?
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I'm working on it, but I want the ability to return it to stock if the need arises. That alone prevents me from removing some extra brackets and mounting tabs.
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Great job, but you're so close to the three hundreds. Can't you find 4.7lbs somewhere?

Thats easy, he's already well under 400. James started all this based on a FULL tank of fuel. He'll race it with about 2 gallons instead of 4.7.

1 gallon weighs about 6.25 lbs at 72 degrees x 2.5 = 15.5 lbs

405 minus 15 will be around 390 lbs

even with an extra gallon of fuel the bike will weigh less than 400.


My bike, on the other hand weighed 456 the last time I had it on a scale. James can get the RC down to 400 when he's done with the SV.


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I bet most of that weight was in the exhaust? I know when I changed from stock to CarbonFiber/Ti exhaust on my RC it was about 21lbs (two cans though).
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Thats easy, he's already well under 400. James started all this based on a FULL tank of fuel. He'll race it with about 2 gallons instead of 4.7.

1 gallon weighs about 6.25 lbs at 72 degrees x 2.5 = 15.5 lbs

405 minus 15 will be around 390 lbs

even with an extra gallon of fuel the bike will weigh less than 400.


My bike, on the other hand weighed 456 the last time I had it on a scale. James can get the RC down to 400 when he's done with the SV.


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Good point! I always forget how much fuel weighs.
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Yeah, but how much beer did you drink while doing the work? That probably put some weight back on.
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I bet most of that weight was in the exhaust? I know when I changed from stock to CarbonFiber/Ti exhaust on my RC it was about 21lbs (two cans though).
Believe it or not, the difference between the exhaust weights was only 14 ounces. I did not opt for the uber-titanium-carbon-fiber Leo Vince. Instead, I got Aluminum w/ stainless pipes. The price vs. gain just wasn't worth the extra money.

The largest loss in weight was from the bodywork. All of the hotbodies combined weighs 15 pounds less than the upper and rear cowl of the SV.
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I can get you some Carbon fiber bits to help shave some more pounds...

Ridge, did you get the full exhaust or just the slip on? I got the S/O and I had to saw off part of the s-bend... they do send you a collar type clamp to put it back to stock if you so desire.
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I went with the full system for two reasons. First, it prevented me from having to cut the oem, and the price of a s/o vs. the full system was quite small. The full Leo Vince only set me back about $600.

PM me some carbon bits you are talking about.
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Why don't you go crazy and hit the titanium route for all the nuts and bolts, may save you a another pound or two but then you need to start working on the six pack as well.


BTW, when's the season start?
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By the sounds it would be a lot easier for James to drop a few lbs.
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James will be dropping a few pounds in the next two months. My goal is to be 190# by race day.
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Paint will add weight. Do you think you need your right leg?
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Pfffttttt ... light weight!
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This thread is worthless without pictures... Let's see the new steed!
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The new steed is sans forks and rear shock right now. Both are off to the shop being tuned.
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Okay, Hotbodies officially sucks dingleberries! After much deliberation and multiple words, the lower will not match with the upper. Three of us in my garage trying to fit the bodywork accomplished nothing. I will be on the phone with them today and this will be resolved, or I'll video the burning of their bodywork, post it on youtube and paste the link in every forum I am a member of.









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Wow, that really does look crappy.....the lines are completely off and wavy! Is there any chance they sent you the body work for the worng bike or is their quality control just that sloppy?
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I've personally had 2 experiences with Hotbodies (RC51 and 748) and can confirm your suspicions, yes they suck. The only way they stay in business is by going super low price and if you're lucky they'll fit. Then you only have to deal with the million pinholes that need filling and the sanding, re-contouring & shaping and manhandling into place.
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If that's the right body kit ... that tooling is way bad or quality is worse!
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Thats what duct-tape,safety wire and wire ties are for - your a RACER NOW MAN ! The tire changer will be functional thursday, if the correct bolts come in -
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Are you a RACER or a POSEUR? Would you like some cheese with that, well... you know!

That looks horrible and you have every right to biotch about it. Did you buy it straight from them or did you go through a local dealer?

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That would be Tarheelguy's hands. He's sort of prissy in a sasquatch kind of way.
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(Although I have no proof of it) I really suspect Hotbodies makes their skins using thin plastic vacuum forms of stock bodywork. I think the inherent flexibility of those forms are what causes much of their skins to not fit.

I may be way off base but have pondered about making skins myself and tried to understand both the best ways and the cheapest ways of forming.

Seems like a viable way of doing things IF you spray hardeners onto the outside of the forms, building up layers of strength until they no longer flex. Then you could lay up the positive forms and epoxy/glass with solid negatives.

If I win the lottery tonight I will go into racebody production. After a year of touring and sluffing. Will get a CNC machine too.
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The hotbodies is stiffer than any bodywork I've ever seen axcept maybe airtech. It doesn't allow any flex when fitting to the bike. All you can hear is eggshells cracking.

Best I've seen lately is attack bodywork.
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Thats what duct-tape,safety wire and wire ties are for - your a RACER NOW MAN ! -
Fitment is gonna suck... Any one could have told you that. But it gets better... when you crash they disinegrate into nothing. Drill some holes, grind some stuff down and rattle can that baby... She'll look just fine when your stuck between 40 other bikes on the track...

hehehe... that's me making a referrence to you running at the back of the pack... hahaha!

Oh yeah... happy new year!

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