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The wobbles

Posted 05-13-2009 at 02:25 AM by beefsalad

I'm hoping I have found the cause of my wobbles. Rear tire is out of alignment by 1/2 a notch or so. I just have to stop riding long enough to fix it. Now that I think about it, rain is in the forecast for the near future so I think my chance is coming up soon. Now if I can find my manual I'll be in good shape!
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  1. Old Comment
    Lash's Avatar
    Dude! Stop riding and get it fixed! Your safety is top concern! I hope it rains like never before so you get that taken care of. And since you ride a 919, I'm sure someone on the WT community can help you with a manual.

    I look forward to an additional blog entry after you've taken care of it.

    Posted 05-13-2009 at 02:30 AM by Lash Lash is offline
  2. Old Comment
    beefsalad's Avatar
    I'd do it at the office, but there isn't a torque wrench here :*( I'll do it when I get home (printing off the pages I need now)

    Hopefully I can find that safety-wiring howto that someone posted...save me the trouble down the road.
    Posted 05-13-2009 at 02:33 AM by beefsalad beefsalad is offline
    Updated 05-13-2009 at 02:37 AM by beefsalad (afterthoughts)
  3. Old Comment
    Pacojerte's Avatar
    wobbling and riding are a bad thing when combined
    Posted 05-13-2009 at 03:25 AM by Pacojerte Pacojerte is offline
  4. Old Comment
    McCrimmon's Avatar
    Get your bike off the ground, front and rear and spin each tire for starters. You may have a tire that is in the begining stages of sperating inside. You don't want that coming apart while riding...Possible bent rim...Look into it dag nab it!
    Posted 05-13-2009 at 04:32 AM by McCrimmon McCrimmon is offline
  5. Old Comment
    beefsalad's Avatar
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by McCrimmon View Comment
    Get your bike off the ground, front and rear and spin each tire for starters. You may have a tire that is in the begining stages of sperating inside. You don't want that coming apart while riding...Possible bent rim...Look into it dag nab it!
    I'm going to see if fixing the alignment fixes it first...then I'll move onto other fun stuff

    The wobble isn't that bad, but couple that with the noise the chain is making...I'm pretty sure it's the alignment.
    Posted 05-13-2009 at 04:56 AM by beefsalad beefsalad is offline
  6. Old Comment
    Pacojerte's Avatar
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by beefsalad View Comment
    I'm going to see if fixing the alignment fixes it first...then I'll move onto other fun stuff

    The wobble isn't that bad, but couple that with the noise the chain is making...I'm pretty sure it's the alignment.
    it could be elves....



    i'm just saying..
    Posted 05-13-2009 at 10:07 AM by Pacojerte Pacojerte is offline
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    McCrimmon's Avatar
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by barton664 View Comment
    it could be elves....



    i'm just saying..

    Always "just sayin"
    Posted 05-13-2009 at 03:10 PM by McCrimmon McCrimmon is offline
  8. Old Comment
    beefsalad's Avatar
    It wasn't the alignment of the rear tire, or the rim...I had been putting off purchasing a front stand, but I guess the time is now.

    While the rim has near 0 runout the tire is a different story. Surely that's not the source, or is it? (I'm looking for a maybe/yes/no here :P)
    Posted 05-13-2009 at 11:15 PM by beefsalad beefsalad is offline
  9. Old Comment
    Pacojerte's Avatar
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by beefsalad View Comment
    It wasn't the alignment of the rear tire, or the rim...I had been putting off purchasing a front stand, but I guess the time is now.

    While the rim has near 0 runout the tire is a different story. Surely that's not the source, or is it? (I'm looking for a maybe/yes/no here :P)
    if the tire is not running true even if the rim is... that is the source of the wobble...

    no running true is not running true regardless of rim or tire...
    Posted 05-14-2009 at 05:20 AM by Pacojerte Pacojerte is offline
  10. Old Comment
    beefsalad's Avatar
    :/ I've got the bike up on stands now...this is really going to @#$^ up my budget if it is the tire(s.) I think I'm still going to take the front end loose, let it all settle, check the balance of it...then resort to changing tires. Maybe I'll steal the one off of my '02 and see how well it plays. But then again, how am I going to get 2 bikes in the air with 1 stand?
    Posted 05-15-2009 at 07:45 AM by beefsalad beefsalad is offline
  11. Old Comment
    beefsalad's Avatar
    So I half-way did what I said I was going to. While I did take the front end loose, I've also pulled the tires off. My dilemma now is which tires to get! I didn't notice before but there was a mismatched set on it. I know that's not uncommon, but it would have triggered my OCD had I noticed.
    Posted 05-17-2009 at 11:17 PM by beefsalad beefsalad is offline
  12. Old Comment
    beefsalad's Avatar
    After a short nap this morning, I drug the tires into Cyclegear. The front tire was ".25 out" according to them. After cooking dinner, I was ready for a nap that unfortunately lasted until I came into work. Hopefully it will be a quiet night after the scheduled programming, and I will be able to catch some Z's.
    Posted 05-18-2009 at 10:26 PM by beefsalad beefsalad is offline
  13. Old Comment
    beefsalad's Avatar
    30m until shift change...no nap :/ I am however wide the f' awake, so I'll be mounting the tires this morning. Now if I could find the section in TFM that describes the procedure to change out that sprocket, I'd be golden.
    Posted 05-19-2009 at 05:32 AM by beefsalad beefsalad is offline
  14. Old Comment
    McCrimmon's Avatar
    Which Sprocket? Front or rear...Either way, It's a simple procedure
    Posted 05-19-2009 at 06:19 AM by McCrimmon McCrimmon is offline
  15. Old Comment
    beefsalad's Avatar
    Front.

    Unfortunately it wasn't the balance of the tires. I've got a theory that it is the front rotors being warped that is the problem. I'm trying to locate a dial indicator now to check. What are the thoughts on this theory? I am skipping replacing tires for the moment, simply because I don't want to throw $300 at something that might not be the problem at all.

    On my test ride this morning, the bike emitted a funny screeching/howl. I have no idea where it was coming from so I am going to head out again in a few to see if I can figure that one out.

    One more thing, in the manual it says to replace the dust covers when remounting the rear tire (but not the front) is there really a need to change them if I didn't pull them off?
    Posted 05-20-2009 at 05:33 PM by beefsalad beefsalad is offline
  16. Old Comment
    McCrimmon's Avatar
    Is this noise only occuring when brakes are applied?

    What dust covers?
    Posted 05-20-2009 at 05:39 PM by McCrimmon McCrimmon is offline
  17. Old Comment
    beefsalad's Avatar
    Noise was happening without brakes being applied.

    Page 14-9 of the manual. They call them "Dust Seals." It's the rubbery bits under the spacer.
    Posted 05-20-2009 at 10:59 PM by beefsalad beefsalad is offline
  18. Old Comment
    McCrimmon's Avatar
    Have you looked at the bearings?
    Posted 05-21-2009 at 03:22 AM by McCrimmon McCrimmon is offline
  19. Old Comment
    beefsalad's Avatar
    Nope. I didn't feel any play in the tires when they were mounted, so I wasn't suspecting bearings at the time. What could I have possibly done when pulling the tires off and having them balanced that would have put the bearings out of whack?

    Long day of training yesterday so I didn't get a chance to mess with it. I did however manage to get my hands on a dial indicator. I have a feeling my girlfriend is going to be mad at me for the amount of time I'll be spending in the garage this weekend. I just did a bit of googling and learned a bit more about tires on motorcycles. 8k on the clock, and guess how much tread is left above the wear bar on the rear? 2mm if I'm lucky. The sides aren't so bad, but that's not where I would ever notice the wobble

    So I guess I'll be ordering up a set of tires (brand/model to be determined, but I'm thinking 2ct.)

    Back to the squeak (which I still haven't dug into much) Is it possible that the axle nut/bolts are improperly torqued? My torque wrench, while being a snap-on, is well worn and possibly out of calibration. I intend to have it refurbed, but may end up replacing it. This, of course, will have to happen before I get back on my stead

    While I'm thinking about it. Why do they call it a torque wrench, and not a torque ratchet?
    Posted 05-21-2009 at 12:22 PM by beefsalad beefsalad is offline
    Updated 05-21-2009 at 01:43 PM by beefsalad (afterthoughts of the 19th kind)
  20. Old Comment
    McCrimmon's Avatar
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by beefsalad View Comment
    While I'm thinking about it. Why do they call it a torque wrench, and not a torque ratchet?
    One of those things that make you go ... HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
    Posted 05-21-2009 at 05:22 PM by McCrimmon McCrimmon is offline
 

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